Buckler and Spellcasting

Deviknyte · **Joined:** Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:12 pm **Posts:** 609

val Holryn wrote:

Eisener is Sword and Board HC of Nier ... uses a bastard sword. I spend a 2 tick action to dump his shield if I have to cast in combat.

2 ticks? Stowing a shield is weapon speed. Dropping it on the ground is speed 0.

How are you doing this at speed 2?

PCI_StatMonkey · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:43 am

Harliquinn wrote:

val Holryn wrote:

Eisener is Sword and Board HC of Nier ... uses a bastard sword. I spend a 2 tick action to dump his shield if I have to cast in combat.

So it's a minimum of 3 ticks to stow the shield and 2 ticks to ready it again? With tier 2 QuickDraw it would be +1 tick to stow, cast and +1 tick to ready again? Not too bad.

John

A talent which may raise the CTN when casting a spell with a shield is not a bad idea...

:::thinks it over::::

Deviknyte · **Joined:** Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:12 pm **Posts:** 609

PCI_StatMonkey wrote:

A talent which may raise the CTN when casting a spell with a shield is not a bad idea...

:::thinks it over::::

And dual wielders please!

frzntundra4 · **Joined:** Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:14 am **Posts:** 115

PCI_StatMonkey wrote:

A talent which may raise the CTN when casting a spell with a shield is not a bad idea...

:::thinks it over::::

I hope the potential CTN increase is pretty significant.

It would be a major advantage to have a combat effective defense/weapons in-hand and still have full casting.

Personally, I think an increase in Speed to the casting and next weapon swing feels more appropriate. Shield wielders should lose their shield bonuses until their next action.

If the 'cost/increase' is not pretty stiff, there is (again) even less reason to use anything but two weapons or a weapon/shield combo.

SamhainIA · **Joined:** Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:36 am **Posts:** 1554

Delbert casts very rarely in combat, but he usually does it before drawing his sword or by taking a big hit on speed for loosing a shield and readying it back up

PCI_StatMonkey · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:30 am

Deviknyte wrote:

PCI_StatMonkey wrote:

A talent which may raise the CTN when casting a spell with a shield is not a bad idea...

:::thinks it over::::

And dual wielders please!

hell no

PCI_StatMonkey · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:32 am

frzntundra4 wrote:

PCI_StatMonkey wrote:

A talent which may raise the CTN when casting a spell with a shield is not a bad idea...

:::thinks it over::::

I hope the potential CTN increase is pretty significant.

It would be a major advantage to have a combat effective defense/weapons in-hand and still have full casting.

Personally, I think an increase in Speed to the casting and next weapon swing feels more appropriate. Shield wielders should lose their shield bonuses until their next action.

If the 'cost/increase' is not pretty stiff, there is (again) even less reason to use anything but two weapons or a weapon/shield combo.

\

get out of my head....

Adaptation: +3 CTN, +2 Speed, you lose all benefits of your shield for a number of ticks equal to the speed of the spell being cast

Deviknyte · **Joined:** Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:12 pm **Posts:** 609

I said dual wielders please! No seriously, dual wielding is the worst fighting style you out there, if you are going to make a talent for the best fighting style (sword and board) then I don't see why not TWF.

Deviknyte · **Joined:** Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:12 pm **Posts:** 609

If the two-handed weapon talent is just a speed addition, then why is shield and TWF a CTN boost?

PCI_StatMonkey · **Posted:** Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:39 am

Deviknyte wrote:

If the two-handed weapon talent is just a speed addition, then why is shield and TWF a CTN boost?

because you give up the avoidance bonus for a two-handed weapon......

a shield gives you weapon tricks and grants a bonus to avoidance.....

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