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 Post subject: Any thought given to making Disarm/Trip Foe Maneuvers "Base"
PostPosted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:43 pm 
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I know this was brought up when the system came out. I heard that these maneuvers were marked as "Advanced" so they could not be combined with other maneuvers since knocking someone "prone" was such a harsh punishment.

However, it appears there are a lot of ways for spells and such to knock people prone these days. In addition, I've noticed that "Shield Slam" (A tier I shield trick) is a "Base" maneuver that has been combined with things like Sweeping Strike, in order to knock a lot of targets prone.

I was just mainly throwing this out there as a possible change to allow Trip Foe or Disarm Foe to become "Base" maneuvers after a certain number of ranks in Melee (Similar to how some other maneuvers do that).

Any thoughts?

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 Post subject: Re: Any thought given to making Disarm/Trip Foe Maneuvers "B
PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:20 pm 

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John don't you dare be hatin on Delbert's signature move :P

I regard the disarm and trip foe to be very similar to the default two weapon fighting stuff, its uncombinable until you take the tricks/ feats that support it.

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 Post subject: Re: Any thought given to making Disarm/Trip Foe Maneuvers "B
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Trip Foe and Disarm Foe are never combinable as they are both Advanced Maneuvers. I'm not hating on Delbert's move. I just always envisioned doing the same thing with a whip. A year ago I was told they really limited tripping due to the way it proliferated in 3.5 but I find there's a lot of ways for other maneuvers and spells to knock folks prone and may be combined.

I don't want shield slam changed, I'd just like the other options to be on par.

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 Post subject: Re: Any thought given to making Disarm/Trip Foe Maneuvers "B
PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:48 am 
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Grandmaster ... poach "shield slam" and add it to your whip.

Eisener is stealing Edge of the Shield for his bastard sword. I want the push 5. I call it Bell Ringer and be live its going to be great with Sweeping Strike. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Any thought given to making Disarm/Trip Foe Maneuvers "B
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Well to use Grand Master to do it, I first have to have the Shield Training. If I have the shield training, I can just use the shield to do it :)

I'd really just like the ability to trip with whips and whip-like weapons as a Base Maneuver someday :)

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