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 Post subject: Re: Errata - sanctify weapon
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:14 pm 
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Honestly I think you would want to include it just to make the book complete so people that are using the product for home play ect. have the official rules. If Henry wants to keep it as a quest type discovery for secret societies to discover great! But couldn't that be addressed in the Campaign Documents or announcements or what not? I would just like to have the knowledge of what it should be to make the book complete.

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I disagree. Even in your home game the priest of Illiir don't know what the Sanctified Rune of Illiir is. In your home game if you want to give Illiir a sanc rune, go ahead. Pick one that fits him and apply it. But leaving it out of the book makes story sense.


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Deviknyte wrote:
I disagree. Even in your home game the priest of Illiir don't know what the Sanctified Rune of Illiir is. In your home game if you want to give Illiir a sanc rune, go ahead. Pick one that fits him and apply it. But leaving it out of the book makes story sense.


Well, the weird thing is that there is a blessed rune of Illiir in the "Treasures of the Ages" suppliment, and I would think the two would be related in some way, but apparently we know the rune, but not the specific power from the spell sanctify weapon for Illiir, despite valinor of Illiir being the most commonly seen valinor in the game (as far as I can tell).

And I Would think it would be in most valinor's interest to promote the following and followers of their god with such information.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 7:48 pm 
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toodeep wrote:
And I Would think it would be in most valinor's interest to promote the following and followers of their god with such information.


It is in the followers of a religions best interest to understand ALL of what Illiir told mankind some 5,000 years ago, yet for some reason no Valinor showed up to give the Mother Church a brand new copy of "How to be a Human, by Illiir" like he (apparently) did at the dawn of the First Imperium.

Now why could that be? ;)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:04 pm 
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Nierite wrote:
toodeep wrote:
And I Would think it would be in most valinor's interest to promote the following and followers of their god with such information.


It is in the followers of a religions best interest to understand ALL of what Illiir told mankind some 5,000 years ago, yet for some reason no Valinor showed up to give the Mother Church a brand new copy of "How to be a Human, by Illiir" like he (apparently) did at the dawn of the First Imperium.

Now why could that be? ;)


When the gods took off the instructions they left to the Valinor were to stay and witness the glory of mankind. Witnessing is a pretty passive action. Xabal bucked those orders to help humanity and look what it got him ...

It does seem like a weird hole that Sanctify Weapon lacks an Illir specific option, but given that Henry has opined here, its clearly not a typo or unintentional omission...

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 Post subject: Re: Errata - sanctify weapon
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 10:27 pm 

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Hello,

val Holryn wrote:
It does seem like a weird hole that Sanctify Weapon lacks an Illir specific option, but given that Henry has opined here, its clearly not a typo or unintentional omission...


Which is exactly why I thought it was chosen - it was conspicuous by its absence.

Tony - You're right, I could have Pete whip something up and just smack it in there, and then say, "OK - its here, but everyone playing the Shared Campaign, ignore it", but I think you'll agree that wouldn't work very well.

I'm sure it will bug many "completists" out there, but it's not a devastating blow to the Illiirite priests or Holy Champions.

As for the Valinor that may or may no have been seen during the campaign, they weren't just hanging around - they were either working their own agendas (Fallen Valinor) or they were merely doing their duty, as they were told. I really don't think one of them would have stopped and said, "Oh by the way, I noticed a hole in your liturgy - here you go". That's not how I see Valinor.

As for Xabal, he may or may not have taught that Cant to his subjects. He was a Valinor but he certainly wasn't omniscient. In other words, he may not have known, couldn't or didn't want to have that Cant to be disseminated among the faithful. Another possibility is that it was taught to certain individuals and those val'Vasik are dead. Either way, for the time being in this Shared Campaign, it's lost to the ages.

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