"Wrong Turn at Coryan" went through several major revisions. In between an official release that I played and a later version that was also official (but re-edited), there were changes in the nature of the opponents in several major combats, detailed description of the dungeon-temple and players' possible interaction with it, and even the continent on which the mod was set.

Yes, but in his vision, "He watched as the Dark One made pacts with the enemies of his creations and the breaking of the world." So if he was Umor (the dark one?) than how did he fulfill this? If the prophecy means the dark one worked with the Silence than that would make Kassegore a traitor. If it means he worked with the Elorii, by working with Belesarda, than I could see how this could have been fulfilled. Additionally, there is the "breaking of the world" to be addressed. The only thing that I can think of that may meet that criteria is the Valossa who summoned "The unspeakable one" and smashed a large portion of the known lands. It would make sense if the "Unspeakable one" was Kassegore since he was summoned by Ssethrics.

But that all hinges on Kassegore being able to fool Belisarda (especially) and the Elemental lords (a little) about who he is, and since the his people summoned (the lords) and found (Belisarda) while Kassegore and Yig were very active/close to their people, it seems like Belisarda should have been able to recognize Kassegore.



Hmmm, considering that Umor was hanging with Belisarda, the goddess of life and plants, right before his imprisonment, I'm much more inclined to guess the "green goddess" was Belisarda, rather than Yig.



It is possible that the Umor humans are humans who followed a deceptive Kassegore. The big problem I have is the moon destruction killing everything and bringing the final silence. the Prophecy didn't show an attack on the moon, it just showed it shatters on it's own and rain's down on the world with a blue-white, crackling wave that destroys everything. I have a hard time seeing that being the release of a benign being, or an attack on his prison. Additionally, everything we've seen about the black moon ties it to the silence. It's appearance over the citadel at the defeat of the sword of the heavens, the ritual you can almost see during the attack on the citadel, the epilogue of the Codex Arcanis, all point to a darker inclination to the moon than as a prison of a benign being.



I agree with this. It's a strong point to the idea of your theory that it has all the gods working together (unknowingly). The problem is, I really don't think Gods should be easily fooled, even by other gods. I don't think Illiir was fooled by Yig, but made a decision to cooperate. But this idea entirely depends on Kassegore fooling everyone, including his people's biggest current enemy (Belisarda) about who he is, and getting her cooperation in his plans. I find that hard to go with, because it means Belisarda is entirely a patsy in the process - and to some degree the PoM has to be in on it all, since we believe that Belisarda may be the current incarnation of the goddess the PoM let live from the earlier race they destroyed using time travel.



I don't believe she can. She created a Val race because she can created new life. She didn't necessarily empower a human like a Valinor did, she created a human-like being that can interbreed like a val.

As to the prophecy of the Shattering of the Moon (which I've finally looked up the original reference), it seems like it is in the context of "what happens if" regarding the events of that Module. As such, I do not believe 'we' are tied to that interpretation. It is unmistakably referencing that something in the shattering of Aperio would lead to the Voiceless Ones becoming dominent (or, at least implying they played a role in the events leading to it), but there does not seem to be enough data to draw too many more conclusions.

That said, the rest of that adventure has some info which could be more important:

1) The world of THAT future is cleared of almost all threats to the Voiceless Ones, brought about by hubris against Manetas. The Valinor killed any threats to his rule, but in doing so also killed the allies he would need against the inevitable leading to his failure and the failure of his master, Illiir.

2) If the Dark Moon shatters and. . . something comes out, where are the Gods? All we get is a flash of cities, a blast of energy, then the Void.

3) The adventure itself (when it looks into the future) shows a dark ring around the planet and streaks of light moving across the sky. This could imply that Aperio had already shattered (back into the ring from which it was made) and that debris was now starting to fall onto Arcanis as per the prophecy. This could mean that what the Seer saw could have been a condensed version of what we see in the adventure itself, which would imply that the event was far more gradual.

4) In the world presented in the adventure, the power of magic and life of the world has been drained (likely by the Voiceless Ones and The Silence), which likely was caused by Manetas killing off their competition. This could also be important as to the events of the "final battle" because whether Aperio holds a friend or an enemy, if they do not have the energy and power to fight the Void because it has all been sapped, it doesn't matter. This is especially clear for Belisarda's scions (the Ardekene) who are visibly wounded in that future because of the raping of the world itself.

Since we killed (at least to our knowledge) Manetas at the end of the last campaign, the future has changed in some ways. Whether a replacement for Manetas' hubris arises to rule (possibly the Destroyer), events will hopefully lead to a different outcome against the Silence.

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Manetas was trapped - sucked into whatever Realm was opened by the ritual. The Heroes at that time saw his angry face as the floor of the Imperial Throne Room solidified, cutting off his screams of rage.

Gee - I hope he doesn't get out.

As if he will ever get out

I mean, come on! When in Arcanis History have beings of unimaginable power and maliciousness been released upon the world by bumbling Heroes? I bet it hasn't being more there a dozen times in recent memory!

Regarding "To Pierce the Veil of Darkness and Light":

In that eye-popping time-travel adventure, the Heroes of Light learned that "the God-Emperor" ruled the Coryani Empire a few millennia in the future. The heroes' main ally was prevented by powerful magic from uttering the name of the God-Emperor, but most heroes assumed it was Manetas and/or the latest thrall he had put onto the Alabaster Throne. However, the name was never actually revealed....

At least one contemporary (1070s IC) prophecy mentions a "God-Emperor" in a manner thought to relate to the Coming of the Destroyer....

I've envisioned a contemporary adventure in which the heroes start by traveling into an Ansharan Portal (or possibly a World Gate) and something goes awry, leaving them coming out of a strange powerful gate in the Chapel of Anshar in the Temple of the Pantheon. Dead bodies lie strewn about them in the chapel, and an odd little animated wooden marionette greets them with a shock. After a few seconds of confusion by everyone, imperial guards dressed in Illiirite garb arrive as if they were expecting someone, and the marionette indicates a need to get out ASAP. A battle escaping the imperial palace leads to hiding underground in Grand Coryan, where the marionette reveals that the heroes have traveled to what they perceive as their future. In this bleak future, the only races left alive are humans and val'Assante; and the hive-mounds of the Voiceless Ones are spreading across the dying face of Arcanis while the shattered black moon Aperio looks down from above. The marionette asks the heroes what happened in the last century of their history, and then he sighs, explaining that the trapping of Manetas prevented one potential incarnation of the God-Emperor from coming to pass. He cannot reveal the name of the God-Emperor, but the heroes need to return to their own time to stop this future from coming to be by stopping the replacement incarnation of the God-Emperor before he rises too far to stop. The "easy" way of sending them back has already been used and will be too heavily guarded to be worth a repeat attempt, but there is another way.... After the heroes learn enough to alter the time stream and overcome obstacles to reach and travel through a time-gate back in time, the marionette's assistant asks him whether they will now cease to exist or there will be multiple alternate futures; but the marionette tells him that the question is irrelevant since before this timeline can be prevented, a third and final potential God-Emperor must also be stopped in the past....

It is at that time John Conner comes into the story. . .

If Manetas were to be replaced (or released), one logical candidate could be someone who was incredibly strong in the blood of Manetas and who was conceived while his father was under the sway of the Pride of Illiir. Someone who already demonstrated strong hubris and a lack of morals. Someone also set on revenge for perceived slights. Someone who fits one or more recent prophecies. The mere name of such a person could make an Emperor tremble.