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 Post subject: Re: Blessed Lands KickStarter Updates
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:46 pm 
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Well, as far as I know, Tukufu is an Altherian, so this is probably some other scholar.


You think *that guy* look like Tukufu? Thanks a heap Cody! :P I don't think Kelb is going to be much flattered either.

It is true that Tukufu is the son of Sir Ulrich val'Holryn - who escaped/fled disgrace by joining the Shining Patrol. But his mother Kufra was born in Altheria (Semar). Tukufu is a lot darker skinned than the guys up in Tralia. Make of that what you will. I'm sure behind some closed doors its a topic of "discussion." Especially by Sir Ulrich's widow Odile.

More important to me is the age. The good ambassador is just under 30 years old! And more likely to be found playing Indianna Jones than an aged mediaeval sage. Much as I would love to have the face of Tukufu appear in some product ... please. Not him.

I think that scholar is supposed to be Saint Alrameus Vernico.

PS - While I like some pieces more than others. Yes. On balance the art is great!

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 Post subject: Re: Blessed Lands KickStarter Updates
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:41 pm 

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Just finished reading the first chapter and really enjoyed it. It gave me quite a few ideas for characters and backgrounds tied to events in the past. It was interesting to read of the origins of the Ul. The blood wars section was definitely interesting especially when combined with the origins of the Ul.

It certainly sounded like all of the families that remain "val" participated in the war with perhaps a few exceptions - the val'Haupt come to mind as a family that hid. The val'Trisin and I'm forgetting another family. The val'Holryn only grow in mystery given the Sarishan findings. Either they were wrong about absorbing the various abilities of the other families or there is something even more odd about them.

Possibilities on the val'Holryn:
1. Found a way to get around the family limitation that the val'Mehans couldn't. Unlikely.
2. Descended of the line of the god of the PoM who was eaten / destroyed. If so, would there even be power there and why would it so mimic the other bloodline abilities?
3. Descended of a god other than of the PoM. Umor for example.
4. Descended of a god with an aspect that would explain it - some sort of deceit, enlightenment or something similar that would mimic or grant that access.
5. And most likely, something not covered by any of the options 1 - 4 above.

I am curious if we'll find out more about the Blood Guard, what became of the Second Blade or any of the other teasers thrown into the history.

Let me also say I'm a big fan of having the relevant ranks or background necessary to unlock certain knowledge. The 20 ranks for some of it, wow. I almost feel like I need to design a character around just having that kind of sage wisdom. :)

It's a great start and I look forward to the rest of the book.

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 Post subject: Re: Blessed Lands KickStarter Updates
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:22 pm 

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Hello Paul,

Glad you liked it.

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 Post subject: Re: Blessed Lands KickStarter Updates
PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:31 pm 
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The val'Holryn mystery remains of great interest to me. I will keep at the Arcanis world until I know the true story behind that mystery.

We know OOC that the 1st Imperium had flesh crafting. We can guess the Val Mehan (and others?) experimented with bloodline powers leading up to and perhaps during the Blood War. We know The Val Holryn are called "the bastard children" of the gods. My best guess with what we know is that they weren't created by a Valinor at all but through some "bastard" process. And are instead the creation of some faction of Imperium era Technomancers lookng for a way to manifest all the (then available) bloodlines.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 10:38 pm 
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We still haven't really increased the 'birth time' of the val'Holryn any with this revelation. They continue to be a "Minor Val Family" until the time of the Theocracy of the Cleansing Flame. Now we have reference to one being in the First City, leading the defence of the First City. Nice to see how they are still primarily involved in fall, which means that if they were 'created' naturally (ie: by a Valinor), they might have been created for a specific reason.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:00 am 

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I'm excited that we now know a little more (I think) about the sleeping emperor. I assume that is the Larissan val of dreams mentioned. The thing I found really interesting was that he seemed to respect Manetas ("you knew your place in the Celestial Order when Blessed Manetas appeared and had no hand in his imprisonment.") I didn't play in the last campaign, but as I recall, Manetas had quite a following among the Valinor (a third of the host?) I suppose it makes some sense, since he has done something similar to what Manetas did by "ruling over" the Khitani (if in a sleepy fashion). But if he was a true ally of Manetas, shouldn't the Khitani have helped in the war? I would really love to know more about Valinor "politics" and how many are fallen, vs. not fallen; and what the power difference may be between the two.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:26 pm 
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Manetas actually, in the last campaign, would have killed the Sleeping Emperor had he not been defeated (To Pierce the Veil of Darkness and Light, IIRC). The Dreaming of Larissa may not be an ally of Manetas, but it would be "accepting" of Manetas' methods as it is doing pretty much the same thing with the Khitani. Basically, "Manetas was flawed, but if you followed him you sshould follow me."

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 1:30 pm 

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Nierite wrote:
Manetas actually, in the last campaign, would have killed the Sleeping Emperor had he not been defeated (To Pierce the Veil of Darkness and Light, IIRC). The Dreaming of Larissa may not be an ally of Manetas, but it would be "accepting" of Manetas' methods as it is doing pretty much the same thing with the Khitani. Basically, "Manetas was flawed, but if you followed him you sshould follow me."


Perhaps most interesting about this is that the Dreaming of Larissa ISN'T fallen, while Manetas is, apparently employing similar methods.

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How do you know the Dreaming of Larissa ISN'T fallen? How do you know that Manetas was fallen? We have seen many examples of 'fallen' Valinor who did not seem to be in any way diminished in power. Loshnek (the Cunning of Sarish?) seems to be perfectly functional, as did Manetas (as my 3.5 character was turned into a fine red mist when fighting him in a single round), and even Xabal seemed to maintain a significant portion of his previous power. Hell, Skiz (the Strength of Saluwe'), the Hatred of Neroth, and (arguably) Uremeh (The Honour of Cadic) also seemed very powerful despite being 'fallen'. The only example I can think of for a 'depowered' Valinor who seems to have displayed few of his previous powers is Zirth, Supreme Commander of Garundi. We know he is functionally immortal, but beyond that hasn't shown any betraying powers.

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Cody, you're correct. It is possible that the Dreaming of Larissa has fallen. Though if that were the case it would seem more likely that we would have a separate name associated with him.

My comments about fallen vs. not fallen have nothing to do with the amount of power they wield. To date what we have seen is that fallen Valinor have individual names - Manetas, Xabal, Uremeh while those who aren't fallen are referred to strictly by their aspect - The Reluctance of Hurrian, presumably the Dreaming of Larissa, etc.

IF the Dreaming of Larissa hasn't fallen it raises interesting questions on the extent to which the Valinor may involve themselves in the affairs of val and men before crossing some line.

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