Paradigm Concepts

Val'Holryn with Val'Sungha Traits
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Author:  kresnik [ Fri May 24, 2019 2:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Val'Holryn with Val'Sungha Traits

Is this allowed in the campaign? It seems pretty fitting to me that a Val'Holryn would be unsure of which bloodline they belong to since the Val'Sungha traits are unique and some similar to other val based on house. I could see some problems with this though as would they really be considered shunned even if the Val'Holryn didn't know their true bloodline (assuming he takes a restricted class)? Or wouldn't a Val'Holryn with a Kio Sword be looked upon negatively?

Author:  Nierite [ Fri May 24, 2019 5:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Val'Holryn with Val'Sungha Traits

At present, the answer is no. val'Holryn may only take from the "13" major families presented in the 5e Arcanis core book. This rule was clarified some 3 years ago for the ARG rules (though there more in relation to the val'Vasik), and a story reason has not been given yet in a book or an adventure.

Author:  Encali [ Sat May 25, 2019 10:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Val'Holryn with Val'Sungha Traits

In addition, the val’Holryn have no Kio blood, so they could not carry a Kio sword without exception.

Author:  val Holryn [ Sat May 25, 2019 10:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Val'Holryn with Val'Sungha Traits


Yes. As stated. Val’Holryn players at present cannot take the val’Sungha bloodline(s). Depending on the who and how of their “progenitor,” it may work out that that Val Holryn never manifest val’Sungha Powers. Based on what I know (a little) and what I guess (somewhat more) I don’t think you should hold your breath on this one.

Also as stated the Kio do not think that the val’Holryn are directly part of the “family” and would be surprised at the least to see a kio sword in their hands. If it was an heirloom kio sword I believe most kio would take offense and try to retrieve it.

All that said there is some kind of Kio/val’Holryn connection. The kio sometimes refer to the val’Holryn as their distant/little cousins (or some such) and the Val Holryn never allow kio to join the Knights of the Phoenix.

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