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 Post subject: Re: Language and Names
PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 5:49 pm 

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As author of the Mod in questions, I too was under the impression that the provinces used different naming standards, thus Rodriguez.

Thanks for the clarification Henry. I assume the Annonicans using Greek names etc are also no longer correct.

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 Post subject: Re: Language and Names
PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:35 pm 

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The examples in that chart must be very wrong. The modern Spanish names like Rodriguez and Fernandez / Hernandez did not come into vogue until approximately Renaissance period (15th-16th century). A little internet search revealed the medieval names of Iberian peninsula to be quiet different.


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 Post subject: Re: Language and Names
PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:38 pm 
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I have also included Spanish names in mods, per that reference. Alas.

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 Post subject: Re: Language and Names
PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:42 pm 

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Nierite wrote:
I have also included Spanish names in mods, per that reference. Alas.


Not the hardest thing to fix in the future :)


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 Post subject: Re: Language and Names
PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 10:34 pm 

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Taffy wrote:
As author of the Mod in questions, I too was under the impression that the provinces used different naming standards, thus Rodriguez.


No problem. You can't fault a person for following what's in the book.

However, I believe that no purpose is served by propagating a mistake, so I wanted to correct the error.

I'll see if we can go back and correct the incorrect names in the adventures.

Thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Language and Names
PostPosted: Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:42 pm 
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The use of Spanish names in Salantis is (is the real world) a very common thing. As previous posters mentioned, it's explicitly in the PGtA and ARPG rule books as well as lots of Arcanis modules. Spanish names are even used in an entire Invisible King domain which named the Governor as Lopez.

Henry certainly can come forward and state that every one of those references to Spanish names is wrong, but it definitely is a retcon in the campaign world. Having information from Henry on the proper naming style and some hints about the culture in that province, please, would go a long way towards correcting players' understanding rather than simply telling us that all of us have always been wrong about those names.

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 Post subject: Re: Language and Names
PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:41 pm 

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Wait, so I won't be able to play under the name of Osvaldo Salvador Garcia, Ex-Legionnaire of La Chancleta Furiosa?

Oh, the shame ... da agomany! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Language and Names
PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:59 pm 

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Having just read the section on Salantis in the very new and great 5e Core rulebook is lists names as

Medieval Basque.

I dont know much about the Basque region within Spain ( and every time you google search it all you get are articles on the attempted breakaway) but the names look very different from the typical Spanish names around it.

I found this place as a good place to get a character name (in addition to the suggestions in the book!)

https://www.behindthename.com/names/usage/basque

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 Post subject: Re: Language and Names
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:28 am 
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It is exciting to see in the Arcanis 5e Campaign Setting book that the [rectonned] description of Salantian names is that they're like medieval Basque names.

A quick Web search on the Basque language reveals that it's unique in predating the Indo-European language tree. Basque is not a Romance a language (i.e., not descended from Latin), but it did incorporate various Romance words from neighboring languages (e.g., French, Spanish, Catalan). I wonder whether that history by analogy implies that the Salantian people were on Onara before the coming of the Mandai yet incorporated some of their culture? Or just that the Salantians were isolated from the City-State of Old Coryan in the Shadowed Age and have only incorporated some Coryani customs since their province joined the Empire?

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