Originally posted this in the wrong spot.

Fervidite. Make a weapon out of it and it and it does +1 damage (+2 vs people in AR greater than 3). The errata lists this as an equipment bonus. As written doesn't this bonus overlap (not stack) with the bonus you get from fine or exceptional quality (which I would assume is also an equipment bonus)?

Perhaps Fervidite should have a "materials" bonus?

No, it's an equipment bonus of +2 (which overwrites the +1 from Fine but gives the 'net' +1 it used to have). It traded the extra +1 damage vs. AR 3 for ignoring up to AR 5 for objects and constructs.

John

I brought this up a few months ago.

Here is what Pedro said during that thread:



With as expensive to utilize and rare as this material is, I think the bonuses should work as Pedro originally indicated.

yeah rick i brought that up so instead of making them stack we increased the bonus on fervidite

and the extra damage VS heavily armor opponents was deemed to unbalancing (im not sure why) so was replaced with a bonus vs constructs and stuff

The reason given for the reluctance to add static damage bonuses was the presence of the "Gritty Rules" and bypassing Fortitude for a Wound.

I'm curious who determined that this bonus was so significant? and based on what?

What makes me amused by that concept is how much damage someone who can smite (or use a few other spell bonuses) does in one hit. it makes an additional 1-2 static damage look like a scratch.

With as expensive and rare as fervidite weapons are there should be a benefit beyond an occasional +1. The ignoring of AR is such a specialized instance its almost a non-factor, imo.

Pedro had the concern.

John

Well I hope he reconsiders. If the Gritty rule is the concern there are much bigger damage options to consider.

Which will all be looked at..

AR is the best defense when you use the gritty rule...

if you think that additional +1 damage & the ability to wreck constructs (and sunder someone's shield to splinters when they use shield defense) it's your prerogative...

the stacking of maneuvers like Between the seams + Fervidite as well as other abilities forced the change.

To be fair, this saw a lot of back and forth before released to public errata and I think we were all in agreement it was a fair change.

John