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| Author: | Hat [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 8:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Steel Rain and Darken the Sky |
Both of these abilities are too powerful as written. If you recover a single arrow or dagger you can do the whole maneuver again. My recommendation would be to write it something similar to the following: Effect: Weapon; you may throw a single dagger at each Target within range. At least once per scene as long as you're armed, regardless of the amount of daggers you currently possess, you always have enough normal daggers to perform this Weapon Trick. If you've already used the ability to hit more targets than you have daggers, you may use this ability again selecting targets with the daggers you have remaining. Darken the Sky should have the same sort of limitation. With a sweep of his hat, Paul |
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| Author: | PCI_StatMonkey [ Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel Rain and Darken the Sky |
Hat wrote: Both of these abilities are too powerful as written. If you recover a single arrow or dagger you can do the whole maneuver again. My recommendation would be to write it something similar to the following: Effect: Weapon; you may throw a single dagger at each Target within range. At least once per scene as long as you're armed, regardless of the amount of daggers you currently possess, you always have enough normal daggers to perform this Weapon Trick. If you've already used the ability to hit more targets than you have daggers, you may use this ability again selecting targets with the daggers you have remaining. Darken the Sky should have the same sort of limitation. With a sweep of his hat, Paul Will add to the next errata pass after this one is completed |
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| Author: | mith [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel Rain and Darken the Sky |
Darken the Sky is a Tier FIVE trick... I would argue that it's fine as written, given the Tier requirement. Steel Rain is merely Tier 3 |
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| Author: | Harliquinn [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel Rain and Darken the Sky |
I'm confused why the re-wording is necessary? For both, you need the right number of daggers/arrows to attack all the eligible targets, except once / scene you can do it cinematically even if you possess only 1. John |
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| Author: | SamhainIA [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel Rain and Darken the Sky |
I think adding this restriction needlessly limits the trick |
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| Author: | PCI_StatMonkey [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel Rain and Darken the Sky |
I'm of the mind to keep it the same... at most I'll add a fate point expenditure to the 1/Scene ability |
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| Author: | Harliquinn [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel Rain and Darken the Sky |
So 'the same' is: You can use these abilities as many times as you want but with only as many 'daggers' or 'arrows' as you currently posses. In addition, you may perform this once / scene as long as you have 1 dagger or arrow? John |
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| Author: | mith [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel Rain and Darken the Sky |
PCI_StatMonkey wrote: I'm of the mind to keep it the same... at most I'll add a fate point expenditure to the 1/Scene ability I strongly dislike needing to use a fate point to use a weapon trick... There's no such restriction on other tricks. |
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| Author: | Harliquinn [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel Rain and Darken the Sky |
mith wrote: PCI_StatMonkey wrote: I'm of the mind to keep it the same... at most I'll add a fate point expenditure to the 1/Scene ability I strongly dislike needing to use a fate point to use a weapon trick... There's no such restriction on other tricks. I believe it's use a Fate Point to use it more than once / scene if you don't have enough munition to perform it. If I'm wrong, then I agree that the trick should work as written as long as you have enough arrows/daggers to perform it. John |
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| Author: | mith [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Steel Rain and Darken the Sky |
Harliquinn wrote: mith wrote: PCI_StatMonkey wrote: I'm of the mind to keep it the same... at most I'll add a fate point expenditure to the 1/Scene ability I strongly dislike needing to use a fate point to use a weapon trick... There's no such restriction on other tricks. I believe it's use a Fate Point to use it more than once / scene if you don't have enough munition to perform it. If I'm wrong, then I agree that the trick should work as written as long as you have enough arrows/daggers to perform it. John If the fate point is ignore ammo, I'm fine with it... That would be a generally acceptable use of a fate point - 'oh look, I DO have more ammo' |
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