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SamhainIA · **Joined:** Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:36 am **Posts:** 1554

not a bad suggestion, I have a feeling that pedro is going to narrow it down to one or the other

PCI_StatMonkey · **Posted:** Wed Mar 19, 2014 3:44 pm

mith wrote:

SamhainIA wrote:

I'm not sure of the intent, but a possible alternate solution:
instead of relying on having techniques at every tier, look at the total number of techniques known
EG, to learn a Tier IV trick you must know 4 other martial techniques (or 5 or 6 expressed at Tier +x).. it makes it easy for the martial characters to qualify and prevents the cherry picking that people are worried about and provides so much more flexibility.

Yep, back on track... Reposting this because it got lost in the wash:

I like this, I'm a fan, mostly. I would suggest combining the proposed requirements (yours and Pedro's).

"In order to take a martial technique of Tier 2+ the character must possess either: at least one technique of 1 tier lower than the new technique OR a number of lower tiered techniques equal to the tier of the new technique.

Example: In order to take Learn Martial Technique to acquire a Tier 4 technique, the character must already know at least 1 Tier 3 technique OR a total of 4 Tier 1 & Tier 2 techniques."

This offers the greatest flexibility and choices to the characters.

I like this, but I fear it's too much of a radical departure from the way you learn spells, talents, and bloodline powers (you need the lower tier to get he higher tier)

and yes I may be over thinking it, but it seems to defeat the purpose...

Harliquinn · **Joined:** Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:40 am **Posts:** 2046

I like the simple: "In order to learn a Martial Technique [Bloodline] above Tier I, you must know a number of lower Tier Techniques equal to the Tier you want to learn minus 1."

So to learn Tier 3, you need at least 2 other Techniques Tier I or II. This keeps the 'number' of techniques (bloodlines) you need the same but gives flexibility in those cases where a Tier has nothing you qualify for or want.

John

SamhainIA · **Joined:** Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:36 am **Posts:** 1554

Exacly what john said, except i would argue the number of techniques should be increased

Harliquinn · **Joined:** Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:40 am **Posts:** 2046

SamhainIA wrote:

Exacly what john said, except i would argue the number of techniques should be increased

I'm curious why the increase? This is the same number that would be required by taking a technique at each Tier.

John

SamhainIA · **Joined:** Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:36 am **Posts:** 1554

to make martial a little more special , and make the other archtypes work just a bit harder

Harliquinn · **Joined:** Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:40 am **Posts:** 2046

SamhainIA wrote:

to make martial a little more special , and make the other archtypes work just a bit harder

More special? The 12 Weapon Talents, 8 Armor Talents, Advanced Armor Training, and the option for 2 combat talents / 2 martial techniques each tier isn't special enough?

John

Deviknyte · **Joined:** Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:12 pm **Posts:** 609

Harliquinn wrote:

I like the simple: "In order to learn a Martial Technique [Bloodline] above Tier I, you must know a number of lower Tier Techniques equal to the Tier you want to learn."

Wouldn't this mean you needed to know 2 maneuvers to learn a Tier II maneuver?

KISS wrote:

"In order to learn a Martial Technique [Bloodline], you must already know a number of techniques equal to the tier of the Martial you are learning minus 1."

Harliquinn · **Joined:** Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:40 am **Posts:** 2046

Doh, sorry yes I meant Tier -1. My mistake.

SamhainIA · **Joined:** Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:36 am **Posts:** 1554

@john, yeah lets leave that other argument in the other thread, one or two extra tricks isnt really going to bother most any focused martial character where it might have some slight impact on a dilletante kind of character and thats the idea behind this rule isnt it?

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