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 Post subject: Re: Bloodline Action Skill Rolls
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 6:41 pm 

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Harliquinn wrote:
Nierite wrote:
There are 7 Bloodline Talents/Val Family, so the highest you can get is BR9 with Potent Blood. As such, the bonus would be +6 at Tier V for BR1 to +14 at Tier V for BR9.


Seems like a good swing of numbers representing your investment in bloodline talents. I give this method (Rank + Tier) a thumb's up.

Also the numbers seem comparable with a skill that' you've chosen to max out at about 2-3 Ranks / Tier.


Bloodrank I with a Tier V talent should not happen, barring a path or other extraordinary circumstance, given the current or possible errata'd rules. The +14 is probably just under the curve at higher levels, but close - I think that people forget that characters can start with a few ranks in skills, adding 2-3 per tier, so personally I feel 15 is close but not exact). A few thoughts:

* Will this be too steep a curve to keep the talents balanced for someone who does not take Potent Blood and every talent in a chain? Without Potent Blood and only 4-5 talents, the bonus drops to +9/+10 at Tier V, assuming that the player has a Tier V talent.

* Would this bonus to the roll be for all talents a character has, or only particular talents? Is the intent that any Action Rolls affected would be subject to this calculated bonus? For example, If a Val with BR 6 and a Tier 4 talent get a +10 bonus when using a Tier 2 talent requiring a roll?

* Would this affect all powers, or only those without a bonus currently? If so, this modifier may fall behind the curve compared to other powers that rely on Skills and such.

The method works, just trying to make sure its the best solution. As Josh said, this one is a tough one, to make sure the solution would be good and balanced, but also makes sure that the talents are at the relevant. Regardless, Nierite's solution is one I need to think on.

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 Post subject: Re: Bloodline Action Skill Rolls
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 9:48 pm 
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I like it, but it's beyond he scope of this errata

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 Post subject: Re: Bloodline Action Skill Rolls
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:09 pm 

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Thanks for the update - hopefully it can be re-examined in the future then.

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 Post subject: Re: Bloodline Action Skill Rolls
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:21 pm 

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Personally I'd stick with a bonus of 2xBR which some (quite a few?) bloodline talents already use. This benefits those who go deeply into the bloodline even more than BR+Tier. Also, I don't see why attacking with a Tier 5 bloodline ability should have a bigger bonus than a Tier 1 bloodline ability.

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 Post subject: Re: Bloodline Action Skill Rolls
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:27 pm 
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wilcoxon wrote:
Also, I don't see why attacking with a Tier 5 bloodline ability should have a bigger bonus than a Tier 1 bloodline ability.


I don't think anyone was suggesting that, at any point. The whole thing with the Bloodrank implies BLOODRANK, not Tier of Bloodline power. Therefore, if you have BR5 in the present you'd have a +10. In the one I suggested you'd have BR+Tier YOU were.

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 Post subject: Re: Bloodline Action Skill Rolls
PostPosted: Thu Mar 20, 2014 11:56 pm 

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Nierite wrote:
wilcoxon wrote:
Also, I don't see why attacking with a Tier 5 bloodline ability should have a bigger bonus than a Tier 1 bloodline ability.


I don't think anyone was suggesting that, at any point. The whole thing with the Bloodrank implies BLOODRANK, not Tier of Bloodline power. Therefore, if you have BR5 in the present you'd have a +10. In the one I suggested you'd have BR+Tier YOU were.


Sorry. Misread the Tier as tier of bloodline rather than your tier. Personally, I still prefer BRx2 but BR+Tier would work.

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