It isn't one he qualifies for in my proposal. It's not doing the improbable if he already qualifies for the talent/spell etc.

John

i personally like both these options. the first has started to lay down a foundation as to what is acceptable as for as doing the impossible. only issue i see with it is that leaves it open for interpretations as to what is "realistic" but it does have the all important part in there that says the final outcome it up to the judge. now all that needs to be done is get judges on the same note. i think more so at the major con, then local game days. since the cons require more judges to work in conjunction with each other

what can i say about the second one. i really like it. its logical, concise as to what its intent is. this one differently has my vote

there two things here, if your doing the impossible to gain access to a talent i don't think it should have to be one that you would normally have access to, its the impossible so by spending a fate you can access any of them within the limits of the rule. secondly i don't see any reason what so ever as to why 2 fate would need to be spent on one action. in my mind spending more fate does not signify a greater benefit. also i believe that fate point use it limited to only once per an action, unless you are the last man standing of course ( now to be honest i'm not finding this rule in the book, (last man standing is there) but i'm sure i have seen/heard it somewhere .

as far as i can find this is a rule that only certain people go by I cant find it in the books

i couldn't find it either, but i'm damn sure that i have both heard and read it. i just cant place where it was.

I Know that Harvesters and Campaign Staff have upheld it and I know I've upheld it, but for the life of me I can't find a reference to it either. The closest thing I can find is under the 'reroll option' it says you must take the new roll, which could imply no more fate spent.

John

glad im not the only one...thought there for a minute i was going crazy

yeah I've had that "rule" quoted at me more than once and I've disagreed with it every time

It probably came about by extrapolating the re-roll use, which is pretty clear you can only try it once.

Ok everyone

I have a compromise..

FOR NOW.. it's out of the game

BUT... once we have the campaign guide done, with GM guidance for its abdication.. it will come back.. at which point we will wait and see...

if we see it continues to be an issue.. its gone.