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 Post subject: Re: Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:09 pm 
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Simple Maneuvers are things like Two-Weapon Fighting (without being trained), Charging, etc.

To make them Base maneuvers, you have to take the upgraded versions of them (Guarded Charge, Spinning Strike, etc).

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 Post subject: Re: Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:16 pm 

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Except that Trip Foe is Advanced, has speed +2(1), and does no damage. As others have mentioned, this sucks compared to Shield Slam. I would expect all of the weapons that qualify for Trip Foe to be far superior to a shield at tripping someone (but they aren't). At a minimum, I do think Trip Foe needs to be made a Base maneuver (instead of Advanced) - or, if that's deemed too powerful, then Shield Slam really needs to be Advanced (instead of Base).

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 Post subject: Re: Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:22 pm 

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HEY, quit picking on shield slam

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 Post subject: Re: Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 3:27 pm 
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SamhainIA wrote:
HEY, quit picking on shield slam


For the record, I would not advocate for Shield Slam to get changed. I would just like the other option(s) made comparable.

I'd be thrilled if Trip Foe / Disarm Foe became base maneuvers after say +6 or so to the Melee skill.

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 Post subject: Re: Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:35 pm 

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Harliquinn wrote:
SamhainIA wrote:
HEY, quit picking on shield slam


For the record, I would not advocate for Shield Slam to get changed. I would just like the other option(s) made comparable.

I'd be thrilled if Trip Foe / Disarm Foe became base maneuvers after say +6 or so to the Melee skill.

John
Maybe the easier option is new maneuvers for trip weapons that are comparable to Shield Slam, although you'll have to wait for another book.


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 Post subject: Re: Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 5:40 pm 
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deviknyte wrote:
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Maybe the easier option is new maneuvers for trip weapons that are comparable to Shield Slam, although you'll have to wait for another book.[/quote]

Therein lies the rub :) I'd love to see more (and smaller) supplements put out. I have a lot of ideas, but don't think they'd fit into the big books PCI is launching.

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 Post subject: Re: Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:15 pm 
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The old board had a short discussion about a campaign newsletter which didn't really go anywhere.

I'd certainly be willing to contribute to a 8-16 page pdf quarterly newsletter. I'd love to edit as well, but don't think I can commit the time reliably.

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 Post subject: Re: Optimization
PostPosted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 6:21 pm 
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Southernskies wrote:
The old board had a short discussion about a campaign newsletter which didn't really go anywhere.

I'd certainly be willing to contribute to a 8-16 page pdf quarterly newsletter. I'd love to edit as well, but don't think I can commit the time reliably.


This would be a great idea! I'd contribute and would help edit.

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