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Author:  Harliquinn [ Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Customized Advanced Maneuvers
PCI_StatMonkey wrote:
SamhainIA wrote:
People are entitled to have an opinion. I think the fighting style is overpowered also.

and I think instead of limiting traditions, it should be limited to spells that affect avoidance and fortitude and not allow spells that affect discipline. there are already precidents in the system about those two type of attacks


I have been thinking of this option as well


I hope this isn't the solution. Eliminating cool status effects from Arcane Strike greatly reduces it's usefulness. Considering how easy it is to combine Avoidance and Discipine Spells, I don't see why using them with Arcane Strike is suddenly overpowered a melee range.

John
Author:  Harliquinn [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Customized Advanced Maneuvers
Eric Hughes wrote:
Elemental Sweep: Arcane Strike (Elemental Bolt) + Sweeping Strike
Category: Advanced
CTN: 18
Attack: Avoidance (Pr)
Speed: 6(Recovery 5, Strain 4)
Powering your weapon with elemental damage, you sweep through the opposition as if like butter. Weapon+Spell(d6)+(Mi). Affect two targets in range or three targets if melee is +6 or better.
Adaptation: Increase the CTN by 3, and Strain by 1 to give a die bump to the spell die.


I updated this and I think this is correct:


Elemental Sweep (Tier 1) - Eric Hughes
Base Maneuvers: Arcane Strike (Elemental Bolt) + Sweeping Strike
Weapons: Any melee or unarmed
Attack: Avoidance (Pr)
2 Targets: Elemental Bolt [Adaptation: +1 Target]: CTN: 21, Speed (Strain): 6 (+4)
3 Targets: Elemental Bolt [Adaptation: 30' (10' Radius)]: CTN: 24, Speed (Strain): 6 (+6)
Weapons with Speed 3-6:
Speed (Recovery) (Strain) [2 Targets]: 6 (Weapon Speed+1) (+4)
Speed (Recovery) (Strain) [3 Targets]: 6 (Weapon Speed+1) (+6)
Weapons with Speed 7+:
Speed (Recovery) (Strain) [2 Targets]: Weapon Speed (7) (+4)
Speed (Recovery) (Strain) [3 Targets]: Weapon Speed (7) (+6)
Range: Melee (2 or 3 targets)
Effect: Weapon damage + d6 (Elemental); you may perform an attack against any two
opponents within melee reach doing weapon and elemental damage. Each attack must be rolled separately. You may attack an additional opponent within range once you reach +6 with any Melee skill specialization.
Adaptation: Increase the CTN by 3, and Strain by 1 to give a die bump to the spell die. This Adaptation may be applied multiple times.
Author:  Eric Hughes [ Wed May 13, 2015 3:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Customized Advanced Maneuvers
SPIN THEIR CLOCK (Tier 1) - Eric Hughes
Base Maneuvers : Edge of the Shield + Shield Slam
Weapons : Small Shield
Attack : Fortitude (Mi)
Speed : 0(5)
Range : Melee (One Target)
Effect : Weapon Target is knocked prone, stunned, and their clock is pushed 8. You lose any benefit from the shield until you recover.

((Can you guys double check my math on this? Also, I listed it as a Tier 1 maneuver because you can adapt the shield slam weapon trick from the Large Shield to the small shield at Tier 1. But without adapt weapon trick then this would be a Tier 3 maneuver.)
Author:  Eric Hughes [ Wed May 13, 2015 3:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Customized Advanced Maneuvers
Correction the earliest that the above maneuver can be performed is Tier 2, as edge of the sheild is strictly a Tier 2 trick.
Author:  Southernskies [ Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Customized Advanced Maneuvers
Eric Hughes wrote:
SPIN THEIR CLOCK (Tier 2) - Eric Hughes
Base Maneuvers : Edge of the Shield + Shield Slam
Weapons : Small Shield
Attack : Fortitude (Mi)
Speed : 0(5)
Range : Melee (One Target)
Effect : Weapon Target is knocked prone, stunned, and their clock is pushed 8. You lose any benefit from the shield until you recover.



+0 (+4) and +2 (+3) becomes +2 (+7) (errata)
It also would only Push 4 (stacking rules and errata).

Full rewrite:

Base Maneuvers : Edge of the Shield + Shield Slam
Weapons : Small Shield
Attack : Fortitude (Mi)
Speed : +2 (+7)
Range : Melee (One Target)
Effect : Weapon Target is knocked prone, stunned, and their clock is pushed 4. Targets larger than the attacker are immune to this maneuver’s knockdown effect. You lose any benefit from the shield until you recover.
Author:  Taffy [ Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Customized Advanced Maneuvers
Just after some advice on if this is a legal advance maneuver

Beore’s Kiss
Like Beore’s maelstrom your spinning attack strikes your opponents forcing them off balance and open to a final strike.
Components: Spinning Strikes & Unbalancing attack
Category: Advanced
Attack: Avoidance (Pr)
Speed (Recovery): +1 (5)
Range: Melee
Effect: Weapon-3; you may move an additional 5’ before you perform your off-hand attack with a +2 to hit. If you successfully strike with your off-hand attack, you deal normal damage plus additional damage equal to your Passive Quickness Value +1 and your Prowess dice as a bonus attribute dice.
Special: The Speed cost of this maneuver replaces the standard speed cost incurred by two-weapon fighting.
Special: Only one attribute dice may explode.
Weapons: Any melee weapon or unarmed.

Spinning Strike is Speed (Recovery) +1 (2)
Unbalancing Attack is Speed (recovery) +1 (4)
Author:  necatorsiderum [ Sun Jan 15, 2017 4:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Customized Advanced Maneuvers
Greetings,

I know this thread has remained inactive for some time, but, given the title, it seemed like an appropriate place to start.

How would Spinning Strikes and Arcane Strike combine?

Page 29 of the Errata Document, v4.3, describes how Arcane Strike would combine with Sweeping Strike, but it does not include anything about two-weapon fighting. Would it follow a similar ruling in which you can apply the spell damage/effect to primary and off-hand attacks as long as you can adapt the spell to affect multiple targets? Or, would the interaction restrict you to only apply the spell damage/effect to either the primary attack or off-hand attack? Thoughts?

Thanks!
Kirk
Author:  Southernskies [ Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:56 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Customized Advanced Maneuvers
As Arcane Strike is a Base Manoeuvre, you can only combine it with one other Base Manoeuvre. Note that the Basic TWF rules and the TWF (Ta) are *not* Combat Manoeuvres that can be combined. The damage only applies to the first attack action made (note that Sweeping Strikes is *one* "attack action" for the example).

To make an Advanced Manoeuvre, you need to use LMT: Spinning Strikes or something other Base Manoeuvre. Spinning Strikes is a very common combination base.

ie: Spinning Strikes (2 dagger/unarmed) + Arcane Strike (Elemental Bolt).
Base stats: Spd 3 +1 (R:2) / Spd 4 (R: 3 [dagger speed], S:2)

Final Speed: 4
Final Recovery: 5 (Base 3 + 2 from Spinning Strikes)
Final Strain: 2

Attack 1 Damage: Weapon + d6 (Primary)
Attack 2 Damage: Weapon + pQu+1

Note that unlike Smite Heretic (sp) the Recovery and Strain bleed off simultaneously once you have your next action.
Author:  FGJustice [ Mon Jan 16, 2017 7:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Customized Advanced Maneuvers
You can't combine Arcane Strike and Spinning Strikes, as Arcane Strike's fighting style requires you to keep one hand free for spellcasting, even if you're psionic.
Author:  val Holryn [ Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Customized Advanced Maneuvers
...yeah. What FGJustice said.

BUT if you have claws/natural weapons or unarmed fighting then that would work.

Still, getting more complicated.
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