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 Post subject: Re: Submit your Advanced Spells!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 9:55 am 
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Here's a few from my Elorii, who tends to quote a certain playwright when in combat.

Taming of the Shrew (Storm of Knives + Mind Lock)

"My tongue will tell the anger of my heart, or else my heart concealing it will break."

Defenses: Avoidance and Discipline
If Avoidance hits, 1d4 (Re) (5 foot radius, minimum 1d4 hits)
If Discipline hits, Target gains 4 Strain, 2 Recovery

Total Speed +8(4)

Tempest (Elemental Bolt + Brittle Bones)

"Full fathom five thy father lies;
Of his bones are coral made;
Those are pearls that were his eyes:
Nothing of him that doth fade,
But doth suffer a sea-change
Into something rich and strange.
Sea-nymphs hourly ring his knell: Ding-dong
Hark! now I hear them,—Ding-dong, bell."

Defenses: Avoidance and Fortitude
If Avoidance hits, 1d6 (Re)
If Discipline hits, next attack gets +1d10 damage

Total Speed +8 (1)

A Midsummer Night’s Dream (Mind Lock + Matter Shift)

“If we shadows have offended,
Think but this, and all is mended,
That you have but slumbered here
While these visions did appear.”

Defenses: Avoidance and Discipline
If Avoidance hits, Change armor/weapon/item into something different of the same size
If Discipline hits, Target gains 4 Strain, 2 Recovery

Total Speed +6 (5)

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 Post subject: Re: Submit your Advanced Spells!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:04 am 

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elemental bolt and brittle bones don't combine, the don't share the same Duration (instant Vs Next Hit or Scene)
mind lock and matter shift don't combine, Duration (instant Vs Scene)

Storm of knives and mind lock is fun, I'm glad to see you included the Elder adjustments to the spell, but can you include the casting number and full text of the spell?

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 Post subject: Re: Submit your Advanced Spells!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:25 am 
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SamhainIA wrote:
John can you add the advancements for the arc of lightning elemental bolt?


Sure! I'll also remove the other spell that doesn't combine (I can't fact check them so appreciate the help!)

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 Post subject: Re: Submit your Advanced Spells!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:48 pm 
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Got it - I'd forgotten about duration.

Before I write these up fully (I'll edit this post), care to check me on these?

Note: I am casting as Elorii, so I've tried to show the math for increasing speed, decresing strain, for non Elder. I think you do that prior to. My issue is that this makes most them interruptible, though I believe the initial effect is still Instant.

Elemental Bolt 4(2) > 5(1) Avoidance 30’ + Flash 4(3) > 5(2) Fortitude 15’ Cone
= +8 (3) Avoidance and Fortitude, 15’ Single Target

Elemental Bolt 4(2) > 5(1) Avoidance 30’ + Mind Lock 4(3) Discipline 30’
= +7 (4) Avoidance and Discipline, 30’ Single Target

Flash 4(3) > 5(2) Fortitude 15’ Cone + Mind Lock 4(3) Discipline 30’
= +7 (5) Fortitude and Discipline, 15’ Single Target

Storm of Knives 5(3) > 6(2) 5’ Radius + Mind Lock 4(3) Discipline 30’
= +8 (5) Avoidance and Discipline, 5’ Single Target

Storm of Knives 5(3) > 6(2) 5’ Radius + Flash 4(3) > 5(2) Fortitude 15’ Cone
= +9 (4) Avoidance and Fortitude, 5’ Single Target
*not sure how this one would be helpful, but it combines, I think

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 Post subject: Re: Submit your Advanced Spells!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:51 pm 

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based on my understanding your not going to be able to combine Flash with elemental bolt or mind lock

you could with storm of knives if you adapted storm of knives into a cone

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 Post subject: Re: Submit your Advanced Spells!
PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:56 pm 
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I'd like to get a ruling on it, since I think as long as you reduce the area to the smallest possible it works?

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 Post subject: Re: Submit your Advanced Spells!
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Just saw the updated rules for combined spells:
Sarish's Furnace becomes a 4(4) spell with them and Sarish Binds You a 5(4) spell)


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 Post subject: Re: Submit your Advanced Spells!
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yeah i would like to get a ruling on it also, but I think its safe to say that targeted spells and Area spells cant combine

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 Post subject: Re: Submit your Advanced Spells!
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SamhainIA wrote:
yeah i would like to get a ruling on it also, but I think its safe to say that targeted spells and Area spells cant combine


Unless you can and do apply an adaptation that turns the target into an area.

John

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 Post subject: Re: Submit your Advanced Spells!
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Question for those submitting (and utilizing hopefully) the advanced spells list. What is the best way to categorize these? Right now I have it by Source, but with all the cross source spells, it makes more ense perhaps to use my "type" category (healing, buffing, debuffing, direct damage, etc).

I can do it both ways if both are useful.

As for Elorii spells, if the spell is unique to Elorii, go ahead and apply the speed/ strain modifications. If the advanced spell can be cast by elder and another source, please list the speed/strain for both Elorii and non.

John

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