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Well the authority most often quoted concerning the Divine "Gifts" that were granted by the Pantheon of Man would have to be Malomomen of the Emerald Society. In the first volume of his masterpiece "The Pinnacle of Achievement and Subsequent Fall" he lists seven of them...

Illir's Throne of Man, Saluwe's Tree of Serenity, Altheres' gift of a common language, Anshar's Gates, Beltine's Well of Souls, Lariisa's Labyrinth of Time, & Yarris' Pearls
Beyond this I would feel fairly confident assuming that the Pillar's of Nier represent His gift to mankind.

Beyond that we move into a speculative realm. More controversially one might suspect that the Gift of Sarish is tutelage in Arcane magic. Though I suspect many conservatives in the Church would disapprove, it's important to remember that in the First Imperium arcane magic was celebrated. Imperial Sorcerers were though of as colleagues to the Imperial Priests. Our modern attitude do not match those of antiquity on this topic. So maybe. I know of nothing else that would fit on this front. Finally I note that the val'Tensen's heirloom The Lion of Winter vies with Kelisar to be the most famed sword in the known world. And its origin & mysterious "selection" of the head of the family at least suggests to me that it *may* be Hurrian's gift.

I am sorry to say I have no real knowledge to offer regarding the Gifts that were left to us by Cadic & Neroth. The search continues!

Author:	vandom43 [ Sat Sep 28, 2019 11:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Gifts of the Gods
We know that the Pantheon of Man gave 12 gifts to humanity before they left to get some hooch, and we know what some of them are: The Scepter of Man, The Pearls of Yarris, etc. But what about the rest of them? Illir: Scepter of Man Yarris: 9 Pearls of Yarris Neroth: ??? Nier: ??? Hurrian: ??? Cadic: ??? Larissa: Labyrinth of Time Saluwe: Tree of Serenity Beltine: Well of Souls Anshar: Gates of Anshar Althares: The Altharin Language Sarish: ???

Author:	val Holryn [ Sun Sep 29, 2019 5:56 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Gifts of the Gods
I had the chance to consult with Tukufu about this subject earlier today and this is what I got out of him... At Starbucks, over coffee, Ambassador Tukufu wrote: Well the authority most often quoted concerning the Divine "Gifts" that were granted by the Pantheon of Man would have to be Malomomen of the Emerald Society. In the first volume of his masterpiece "The Pinnacle of Achievement and Subsequent Fall" he lists seven of them... Illir's Throne of Man, Saluwe's Tree of Serenity, Altheres' gift of a common language, Anshar's Gates, Beltine's Well of Souls, Lariisa's Labyrinth of Time, & Yarris' Pearls Beyond this I would feel fairly confident assuming that the Pillar's of Nier represent His gift to mankind. Beyond that we move into a speculative realm. More controversially one might suspect that the Gift of Sarish is tutelage in Arcane magic. Though I suspect many conservatives in the Church would disapprove, it's important to remember that in the First Imperium arcane magic was celebrated. Imperial Sorcerers were though of as colleagues to the Imperial Priests. Our modern attitude do not match those of antiquity on this topic. So maybe. I know of nothing else that would fit on this front. Finally I note that the val'Tensen's heirloom The Lion of Winter vies with Kelisar to be the most famed sword in the known world. And its origin & mysterious "selection" of the head of the family at least suggests to me that it may be Hurrian's gift. I am sorry to say I have no real knowledge to offer regarding the Gifts that were left to us by Cadic & Neroth. The search continues! That's most of them! See also page 121 of the 5E Blessed lands Book.

Author:	toodeep [ Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:08 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Gifts of the Gods
I suppose proposing Herka as the gift of Sarish would probably get you branded as an apostate by both the PoM churches and the ghost scales.... I also wonder at Althere's gift of giving us a common tongue since you would generally assume that if humans followed the PoM here from some other place, that we would already have had the common tongue of that place. It raises the question about how fractured the PoM and their followers were before the first emperium. Finally, I find Saluwe's tree a bit underwhelming, honestly. Here other gods are giving out items that seem to be able access the cauldron, bend time and space, control people, and unite the realms - and she gave them a tree that makes you feel peaceful. Its right there in the center of the city right in the same plaza where the hero's fought the dragons before Calmemnon arrived, and right in that plaza where they killed the warden of the city. My character has sat beneath it many times, as I assume pretty much any denizen of the city can, and as far as we know it has had no real impact on anything.

Author:	val Holryn [ Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:11 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Gifts of the Gods
Still need to add the Gates to Anshar. Unless there is some specific reason why you don't think they count? BL Book lists them. I'm sure the Gates are official

Author:	vandom43 [ Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:18 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Gifts of the Gods
val Holryn wrote: Still need to add the Gates to Anshar. Unless there is some specific reason why you don't think they count? BL Book lists them. I'm sure the Gates are official Right, forgot about those. Thanks for reminding me.

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