The only good is Harvester is a dead Harvester.
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| Author: | Eric Hughes [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Plausible Deniability |
The Yamandrakes are back with a vengeance. Some folks roll the dice and cast blatantly. Others hide in the shadows. One tactic I don't recall seeing PC's or NPC's using is the "cover story". Example: "Caster? Me? No. Not me, but there is this really good rune smith I ran into..." I ask because deceit is a archtype skill for arcane just like stealth. But the only rules for casting with subtly uses stealth. When can you use deceit to hide your craft? |
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| Author: | PCIHenry [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Plausible Deniability |
Hello Eric, Use Deceit to HIDE CASTING A SPELL? No - if you think about it, you'll see that it doesn't make sense. Now, using Deceit to misdirect that you cast a spell (past tense)? Yes I could see that. If you mean you wish to use Deceit to convince someone who saw you cast a spell that it came form a rune? Depends on how knowledgeable that person is with Arcane magic. Is it some peasant, merchant or soldier that's never seen a sorcerer cast a spell? Sure - absolutely. Against a Harvester? Not a chance. Harvesters know their stuff - that's why they were selected to be a Harvester. They are trained extensively and seeing through the ol'-it-wasn't-me-it-was-my-rune trick must be basic training. |
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| Author: | Haakon_val'Ishi [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Plausible Deniability |
The only good is Harvester is a dead Harvester.
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| Author: | val Holryn [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Plausible Deniability |
*shrug* The Harvesters aren't everywhere all the time. If you have the bad luck to be spotted by an actual Harvester then you're unhappy. One the other hand if you just run in to an informant who tips off Harvesters then maybe your deceit check is worth something. "Yeah I throw fire around. See this Holy Symbol of Nier?" Or idea about runes... It depends on what's in the module, but in general i think every bit helps. |
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| Author: | toodeep [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Plausible Deniability |
My character only really does two type of magic that is flashy and that I really worry about being noticed. Both are primal. One, the shapeshifting, is the biggest concern, but I usually manage to duck out of sight to do it. But I really worry about a smart person being easily able to put two and two together when I run into the alley and an eagle flies out a moment later. The second flashy magic is the elemental magic (elemental bolt and elemental tempest). If I'm anywhere near the public there is really no way to hide the casting. That's why I wear a holy symbol of Sarish and make sure to yell really loudly, "By the power of Sarish I smite you!" when I feel it is worth it to cast these in public (Which I do try to avoid). Sure, if there is an actual harvester present he'll be able to tell I'm not a sarishan priest; but I figure for most informant types I have a pretty good shot of passing it off. I've got the symbol, Sarishan's have that power, and I've practiced the deceit, so I assume there is a deceit roll involved when I try that. And I assume that the Harvesters don't have any interest in sarishan priests because they are priests. |
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| Author: | val Holryn [ Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Plausible Deniability |
I suspect it may have as much to do with the Cold War between the SK and Loshnek as the fact that the Sorcerer Priests are "priests." But you are right, Ymandragore leaves them alone. |
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| Author: | Eric Hughes [ Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Plausible Deniability |
Thanks Henry, I did mean to misdirect after casting, and not to hide the actual act. My concern was that there are times when you can not afford the CTN hit to cast subtly There are also some spells that just can't be hid very well. Elemental Bolt comes to mind. So, why wouldn't a caster try to buffalo a potential informant? Now for trying to fool a Harvester first hand. Yea, that isn't what I was talking about from a player's perspective. However, Eldritch casters are not necessarily the most insightful of people. A dim witted one my try the ruse....and fail. |
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