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 Post subject: List of Valinor
PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 8:15 pm 
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I had previously made a list of known Valinor on the old forums which has since been lost to time. To save myself a LOT of searching, please post any you think about and I'll update the list.

Althares -


Anshar -
NO VALINOR!!!

Beltine -
Serenity of Beltine (Dead) - Progenitor of the val'Sosi line.

Cadic -
Cunning of Cadic (Unknown) - Fought against Jeggal Sag in the Dragon War.
Honour of Cadic/Urumeh (Unknown) - Fallen, serves as a General of the Infernal Armies of the Gods.

Hurrian -
Bravery of Hurrian (Unknown) - Fought against Jeggal Sag in the Dragon War.
Reluctance of Hurrian (Dead) - Died after releasing the Wrath of Hurrian who was trapped within it.
Wrath of Hurrian (Unknown) - Once trapped by the Reluctance of Hurrian. Released, causing The Storm.

Illiir -
Honour of Illiir (Unknown) - Fought against Jeggal Sag in the Dragon War.
Light of Illiir (Unknown) - Fought against Jeggal Sag in the Dragon War.
Love of Illiir (Unknown) - Last known to be alive in Year 6 of the 3.5 campaign.
Patience of Illiir/Xabal (Dead) - Founder of the city of Bastion, progenitor of the val'Vasik line.
Pride of Illiir/Manetas (Bound) - Currently bound by a Sarishan Ritual after attempting to take over the world.
The Word of Illiir?/Numeh (Unknown) - Gifted a spear to a Milandesian king.

Larissa -
The Dreaming of Larissa (Alive) - The Sleeping Emperor of Khitan
????/"Saturna" (Unknown) - The namesake Valinor for the Larissan Saturnalia in Savona

Neroth -
Hatred of Neroth (Unknown) - Previously bound in the Cauldron, current status unknown (killed by Skiz?)
Mercy of Neroth (Dead?) - consumed by an undead dragon.

Nier -
Blade of Nier (Unknown) - 'Patron' of Nol Dappa.
Judgement of Nier (Alive?) - Guardian of the Cauldron, judges souls.
Rage of Nier (Unknown) - Fought against Jeggal Sag in the Dragon War.
Temperance of Nier (Dead) - Killed by Jeggal Sag during the Dragon War.


Sarish -
Cunning of Sarish/Loshnek/???? (Alive?/Fallen?) - Meddler of most aspects of Onara, last seen at the Battle of Grand Coryan.
Shadow of Sarish/Mish (Unknown) - Formally bound by the Baucisz, progenitor of the val'Baucisz line.

Saluwe' -
Fertility of Saluwe' (Unknown) - Fought against Jeggal Sag in the Dragon War.
Strength of Saluwe'/Skozorantus/Skizz(Unknown) - Last seen at the Battle of Grand Coryan fighting with the Hatred of Neroth.

Yarris -


Unknown Patron -
Pirate King of Garundi
Sleeping Emperor of Khitan.

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 Post subject: Re: List of Valinor
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Skizzerantes (no clue if I'm spelling that right or not, so Skizz for short) was the Strength (?) of Saluwe, if memory serves. It's been a while.

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Just to throw Menthos into the diet coke. The Sorcerer King - Something or Other of Sarish. Possibly Fallen. :-D

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 Post subject: Re: List of Valinor
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:47 pm 
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MaurLysander wrote:
Just to throw Menthos into the diet coke. The Sorcerer King - Something or Other of Sarish. Possibly Fallen. :-D


There is an outside chance that the SK is Amath, a valinor of Sarish ("Always the clever one") but a much more likely reading of what we know from Blood Reign in Nishanpur and the Year of Ill Harvest is that Amath ended up on the SKs dissection table.

Given the information on Loshnek in BRiN and his motivation to investigate what the SK is up to it seems unlikely to me that the SK was a former "inside agent" of Sarish.

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 Post subject: Re: List of Valinor
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Doesn't it say under the entry in Abessios that Amanth is the Sorcerer King of Mandragore?

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Khuld the Pirate King of Magra wasn't a valinor. He was a half-ogre (not half-orc). You meet him in LA-SP3-17 No Quarter.

I've always found it interesting that Yarris, Althares, and Larissa don't have valinor.
Yarris has rumors of existing before the other Gods came to Arcanis.
Althares has documented "evidence" in the original 3.0 Codex of still speaking to his worshipers, while all other human Gods have gone silent. (pg 75)
Just Larissa doesn't have any excuses for the lack of valinor.

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I believe there was the Mercy of Neroth that was eaten by a Dragon if memory serves me well

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 Post subject: Re: List of Valinor
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Many suspect\believe the Sleeping Emperor is of Larissa. There is a reasonable chance that the 1000 Eyed Man is a fallen Valinor of Larissa.

Altheris may or may not have any listed valinor but his origins seem sufficiently conventional to me that I assume (for the moment at least) that he has them and if we spent more time adventuring in Altheria then we would know about them.

Yarris is indeed altogether another question question. I am not currently taking odds on his having valinor or not.

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 Post subject: Re: List of Valinor
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toddpmorgan wrote:
Doesn't it say under the entry in Abessios that Amanth is the Sorcerer King of Mandragore?


Yes. In the Core Book on page 5 it does. Which is indeed suspicious. ( not necessarily determinative.) In the past on the LA talk list there has been suspicions that more than one individual has used the name Amanth ... which again is also the name of the person who designed the ritual to trap the Sword of the Heavens and also a person of interest to Sarish and Loshnek (and presumably a former servant of Sarish).

Is it the SK in all three references? That is certainly one possibility. But its also possible that at times it was desirable for the SK to use the name of the valinor he dissected and subsumed...which could also be the Amanth of some of the above as well...

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