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 Post subject: Re: So who is the Destroyer?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 4:34 pm 

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Just cook it in the shell..... I think it is fervidite.

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 Post subject: Re: So who is the Destroyer?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:22 pm 
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Need to build one of these, then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_furnace

Canceri sounds ideal as a location (24 hour undead labour, potential to bring a searing light to dark places...)

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 Post subject: Re: So who is the Destroyer?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:29 am 
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Matias is more or less the right age to be Calemnon. Has old wounds appropriate for heavy fighting in DZV and scars on his back appropriate from a childhood being beaten by the Val Dellenovs. Shows possible signs of treating women as object/misogyny? Only issues seems to be Matias is apparently human and not Val. And the origins of Spirit mount powers. Both potentially resolvable by sufficient psionic power and/or activity since we've last seen him.

::Coughcoughdestroyercoughcough::

... .??? ...

Just saying...

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:cough: see hidden message in Blessed Lands book :cough: ....

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 Post subject: Re: So who is the Destroyer?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 1:13 pm 

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val Holryn wrote:
Matias is more or less the right age to be Calemnon. Has old wounds appropriate for heavy fighting in DZV and scars on his back appropriate from a childhood being beaten by the Val Dellenovs. Shows possible signs of treating women as object/misogyny? Only issues seems to be Matias is apparently human and not Val. And the origins of Spirit mount powers. Both potentially resolvable by sufficient psionic power and/or activity since we've last seen him.

::Coughcoughdestroyercoughcough::

... .??? ...

Just saying...


The question is whether the Destroyer needs to still be corporeal. After all, Matias is of a sect that is "mounted" by spirits, so we don't really know if Matias is Matias. Maybe he was Matias, but as part of previous events he picked up a hitchhiker "somewhere." If a spirit could be the Destroyer, he could be almost anyone. It also raises the potential for him to raise his "army" from anywhere (or one place in particular) and then turn the pre-existing forces of good into forces of.... evil. I think it is very important to keep a very close eye on the well in the coming period.

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 Post subject: Re: So who is the Destroyer?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:27 pm 
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Matias wears a noose around his neck (something that causes "normal" Beltinians to shun him) and claims to be a spirit mount. Is he? How many real spirit mounts do we have to compare him to? We know he did extract Nasha's soul from the Well. Point for him. And he has an ability similar to the spell slip sideways (might be a weird Beltinian power, might not) and he seems to be using some variation of thrall on the women of the Golden Court (not Likely to be a Beltinian power).

If Matias is the destroyer he's too powerful for PCs to directly confront. He definately bears watching and PCs should be on the lookout for any clever ways to indirectly hinder his plans

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 Post subject: Re: So who is the Destroyer?
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Is it just me or does anyone else get this creepy Rasputin vibe with this guy working his way through the Court women and his seeming hold on Nasha?

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 Post subject: Re: So who is the Destroyer?
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So the only way to make sure he dies will be a flintlock to the head...

Load up the silver bullets!

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Just remember it took a LOT to kill Rasputin...and always remember to "double tap." :)

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 Post subject: Re: So who is the Destroyer?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 6:44 pm 
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toodeep wrote:
[...] Matias is of a sect that is "mounted" by spirits, so we don't really know if Matias is Matias. Maybe he was Matias, but as part of previous events he picked up a hitchhiker "somewhere." If a spirit could be the Destroyer, he could be almost anyone. It also raises the potential for him to raise his "army" from anywhere (or one place in particular) and then turn the pre-existing forces of good into forces of.... evil. I think it is very important to keep a very close eye on the well in the coming period.

I independently had similar thoughts. While it's possible that Matias is bad, it's also possible that a spirit carried within him is causing the body to do bad things. It might be a matter of partial control or influence (comparable to the split soul some PCs can have) rather than outright control of the body.

Taking it a step further, said spirit might be happy to push it to the point of angering powerful people and warriors and on purpose to get Matias slain so that all the spirits within can escape.

My best ideas on containing the souls within Matias should they get out are to be careful on any potential death or other circumstances when they may escape:
  • keep him at the Well of Souls, so hopefully escaped souls/shades will get immediately drawn into the Well
  • keep him at the spirit trap in the House of the Chained [see Blessed Lands, p.. 123-24], though that may bring up the question as to which magic is more powerful: that of the spirit mount or that of the spirit trap. Those guardian spirits might be able to fight any spirits released from Matias, or maybe Matias could take the guardians away and free them.
  • have multiple Wards against the Unnatural in place around him, especially from strong casters and Beltinians
We should try to think of other ways to block the shades. We also need to protect Exorcists.

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