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 Post subject: "Leaf Upon the Wind" and stacking
PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:14 pm 

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Is the +1 Avoidance bonus from the "Leaf Upon the Wind" advantage meant to stack with the optional +2 Avoidance benefit from the "Two-Weapon Fighting" advantage? Or is this a case where we take the better of the two but not the sum?


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 Post subject: Re: "Leaf Upon the Wind" and stacking
PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 5:44 pm 
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Stacking rules apply.

The damage bonus from TWF is a lot more valuable if you don't already have Weapon Master. Sometimes, even the extra +1 to Av can be lifesaving.

Long term, a Hero is probably better off taking both Leaf Upon the Wind and Weapon Master; but the XP cost is higher to do so than getting TWF alone.

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 Post subject: Re: "Leaf Upon the Wind" and stacking
PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:35 am 

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I'm not certain that stacking rules do apply.

Certainly for Weapon Master, I would think Two-Weapon Fighting would in fact stack with it, because the Weapon Master text explicitly states that "this bonus stacks with all other Advantage bonuses." Several of the damage-related advantages have text to that effect, presumably because there are several such advantages.

Since Leaf Upon the Wind is the only other Advantage that confers an Avoidance bonus (in the core Rotted Capes book, anyway, which is all I have access to) and TWF is weird in that it is variable, it seems possible that not specifying stacking/not stacking between TWF and Leaf Upon the Wind was just an oversight. Thus, I'm curious what the game designers intended: stack or no-stack?


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 Post subject: Re: "Leaf Upon the Wind" and stacking
PostPosted: Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:45 pm 

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As per stacking rules, Leaf Upon the Wind and the +2 Avoidance from TWF does not stack as they are from the same source: Advantages. You either get a +1 from LUtW or +2 from TWF if the Avoidance bonus is chosen. Unlike Weapon Master, TWF does not specifically state it stacks with other Advantage bonus.

IIRC, I had a convo with Pedro close to a year ago covering this very same subject. His ruling was as such above.

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 Post subject: Re: "Leaf Upon the Wind" and stacking
PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:49 am 

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Awesome! Thanks!


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