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 Post subject: Energy Blast Firearms?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 8:15 am 

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I was going over the sample characters and noticed Cyberous had an energy rifle and was using Firearms for the attack skill. Is this an error or was it intentional to allow the firearms skill to work with energy blast under some circumstances, such as a removable items shaped like a rifle.


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 Post subject: Re: Energy Blast Firearms?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:48 am 
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Looks like a major design error. Powers (and some equipment/weapons) use Ranged skill. Cyberous doesn't HAVE Ranged skill...

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 Post subject: Re: Energy Blast Firearms?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:31 pm 

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Southernskies wrote:
Looks like a major design error. Powers (and some equipment/weapons) use Ranged skill. Cyberous doesn't HAVE Ranged skill...

Exactly. I was guessing one of 3 scenarios: 1) the maker messed up 2) it was a rule to allow it to use firearms in an early draft and this character was made then but missed it in the update as the rule changed 3) It was the rule or intended rule to allow some circumstances but the text for it got cut (similar to references to the Mettle skill)

My initial concerns were to keep up 2 skills at levels that could hit, but looking over the Super Zs in the book and some of the enemies i guess you don't have to keep the secondary skill that high to be useful.


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 Post subject: Re: Energy Blast Firearms?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:42 pm 
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As defences are purely based upon passive Attributes (unlike the tier advancement options in Arcanis), a +5 or so attack bonus will hit nearly anything 59% of the time. The only reason to go higher is for the attack Maneouvres.

Av 20: http://anydice.com/program/bfd7

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 Post subject: Re: Energy Blast Firearms?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:56 pm 

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Southernskies wrote:
As defences are purely based upon passive Attributes (unlike the tier advancement options in Arcanis), a +5 or so attack bonus will hit nearly anything 59% of the time. The only reason to go higher is for the attack Maneouvres.

Av 20: http://anydice.com/program/bfd7

Yeah even the highest I've been able to make a starting character, that focused on defenses, was 22. The toughest of the Super Zs in the book only have a 24, and those were ultra and omega level. I don't think I've seen a cosmic level yet, and while it would be a great thought experiment I don't think it will turn out much different.

Plus defenses are layered. Just hitting AV does no good if you can't get much through their AR and then you still have stamina and wounds to wear down. So I'm guessing the character I'm working on right now with +8 when using their unique weapon is a bit excessive.


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 Post subject: Re: Energy Blast Firearms?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:19 pm 
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Not really. Headshot/Devastating Attack is -6, so knocks it back to 37% vs Av20.
It is highly reliable (80%) if you're going to use Team Attack to hit the Massive Damage threshold.

Having said that, one of the pre-gens Skill Hero's (150 pt Beta) I've made has Sword +8, damage d12+2 (d10) and Pistol +7 (with laser sight) using just skill packages with Focus, Weapon Master and Unique Weapon (MS:40).
There is a big XP saving at creation; the points can instead be spent in other areas or boosting the Team's weak areas.

The highest specialised Threat I can think of offhand would be:
Pr: 15, In: 15, Force Shield: 15 = 12+6+6+6 = Av:30
At which point, Heroes are going to need a better plan (such as Nullify Power or specifically target the Shield to overcome its MS+Hits)

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