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 Post subject: Kickstarter Relics
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:11 pm 
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Just curious what Relics other Kickstarter backers took for their characters...

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 Post subject: Re: Kickstarter Relics
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:21 pm 

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The best one that I have is a dagger once owned by St. Ignatius of Loyola. While he's perhaps best known for founding the Jesuits, he also wrote the foundations of the Spiritual Exercises, meaning that this relic gives a bonus to Mysticism.

(Plus it would probably really annoy the Jesuits who hate Witch Hunters, which makes it all the more delightful)


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 Post subject: Re: Kickstarter Relics
PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:41 pm 
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I'm thinking of going with the Confessions of St. Cyprian, the former occultist turned saint. When he repented, he wrote down his confessions into a bound book. Several of the pages have turned up here and there, detailing occult rituals and other arcane practices, giving a bonus to Mysticism as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Kickstarter Relics
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:58 pm 

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Here are the ones that Antonio Montana Espinoza carries:

• One silver coin found near sarcophagus of St. Francis of Assisi [Animal Care]
• Tooth of Saint Adalbert of Egmond [Charm]
• Piece of the Column of Scourging [Command]
• Wristbone of St. Helena [Craft]
• Piece of St. Joseph of Arimethea's cloak [Empathy]
• Gold ring from St. Rita of Cascia [Gamble]
• St. Paul’s handkerchief [Heal]
• Knucklebone of John the Baptist [Mysticism]
• First Martyrs of Rome - Soil from the Catacombs of Rome [Navigation]
• Section of rib from St. Bernardine of Siena [Pantomime]
• Link from the chains of Saint Peter [Perform]
• Knucklebone of Benedict of Nursia [Scholarship]
• Thorn from the Crown of Thorns [Speak Language]
• Cloth Second Crusade cross from Bernard of Clairvaux’s garments [Subterfuge]
• Splinter of the Wooden Manger [Survival]


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 Post subject: Re: Kickstarter Relics
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:17 pm 
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You know you can only have 1 / character right?

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 Post subject: Re: Kickstarter Relics
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:01 pm 

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Nope, you can have 1 per Skill per character!

Per the Kickstarter: "This certificate cannot be combined with others to grant more than one die bonus to the same skill, although it can be purchased additional times for different skills."


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 Post subject: Re: Kickstarter Relics
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 3:14 pm 
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Hmm just checked and the wording is as you say. The Arcanis one specifically said 1 / character.

I may upset people but I think having more than 1 per character is really a bad idea. All it does is say "I spent tons of money so now I have +1d to a whole lot of skills; therefore, I'm carrying around so many holy relics that the Adversary himself ought to come and smite me down to retrieve them."

I wonder if that was the actual intent in the Kickstarter was to have Witch Hunters as walking Reliquaries.

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 Post subject: Re: Kickstarter Relics
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:49 pm 

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The way I see it, they're all minor relics, and their attractiveness to minions of the Adversary (or anyone else) is proportionate to their mechanical effect. +1d is the same benefit gained from having an exceptional tool, or Tactical Edge. The Adversary would be a lot more interested in stealing Durendal or Joyeuse, and those swords have managed to stay in the hands of Witch Hunters for centuries.


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 Post subject: Re: Kickstarter Relics
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:53 pm 
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I guess I'm just shaking my head at the thought of carrying that many minor relics and getting them out in use every time you make a different skill check.

+1d for 15 Skills is getting 750 "free" Survivor Points (Equivalent of getting Expertise 15 times) by spending $150 real money. I'm not sure that was the intent by PCi considering how careful they are to balance most things.

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 Post subject: Re: Kickstarter Relics
PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:30 pm 
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While I agree that it leaves a bad taste in my mouth, RP-wise. At this point, I think Pandora's box has been opened and people have purchased relics from the Kickstarter. I think that at this point, we just have to accept that there will be some characters carrying around an obscene amount of minor relics. It's a little unbalancing, and would be quite shocking, in-character, but I doubt that it will be game-breaking.

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