This is probably a question only Henry can answer, but has there ever been a list made of the various vassal families that work with the various Val bloodlines? We've seen a few mentioned in some of the mods but to my knowledge we've never seen a full list. It might be interesting to have for anyone who wanted to make a human character with a tie to a particular Val family. For instance a human squired to a Val knight could be from such a family, or a legate/tribune who owed his/her appointment to say the val'Assante. Just some food for thought.

Okay I do recall this thread, I hope to see a more complete list. Although one probably does not exist.

I personally do not see an issue with a player choosing to have their Human character be from a vassal family. Obviously, one would not be in a 'head of the household' patriarch or matriarchal role...but the same can be said for val heroes as well. Plus, I think it also encourages players to create Human characters in a 'val-centric' campaign.

I made a Coryani Former Tribune...Cadician Sword-Saint. Special negotiator/Black Ops kind of guy. And made him a Gracchi. Sadly I have too many character already, I doubt I'll ever play him.

Tell me about it. One of the things I enjoy about this system is building characters. But then I realize there's too many for too few mods...

Both of my characters are part of vassal families.

My primary is from the Otrecto family of the val'Dellenovs, and my Daughter of Calcestus is part of the Gracchi's.

I like tying characters into this sort of world detail, it adds a lot.

I'm with you on this Rick which is why I posed the question.

It's not specifically called out but in the Players Guide to Arcanis, there are "Selected Noble Family Lines:" in some of the sections relating to names, its not exactly what you want but it will get you closer.

I absolutely love having the 3rd ed books as reference books, they have all sorts of gems in them!

I also highly recommend people pick them up wherever they can (legally, and preferably from a source which gives PCI the money directly rather than a used store if possible, of course ).