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 Post subject: Perception
PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:28 am 

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So, I am planning my character as a sneaky type, but recently got the advice that it isn't really feasible because perception will be a primary skill of every villain, and thus it will usually be almost impossible to sneak up on them/around them. I thought, "that can't be true that often..." since perception isn't an archtype skill for most archtypes. But then I reviewed bestiary and every single monster had perception as a primary skill. Horses! Bug swarms! Every demon! What is up with that?

It would seem to me that perception should be a primary skill on creature types that are known to be perceptive. Hawks. Gaurd creatures. Maybe ambush type creatures. But literally everything? I think that is an over application of the skill. After all, while all preditors/combat beasts must hunt (and thus might argueably might have perception) all creature also walk/run but not all have athletics. This seems especially odd with the demons and other intelligent monsters. Why do Ssanu, which are casters and can most readily be compared to the arcane archtype, have perception?

Something seems odd. I don't really expect an errata, but I would like this considered in future publications that maybe not every single creature should have perception has a primary skill...

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 Post subject: Re: Perception
PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:33 am 
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toodeep wrote:
Something seems odd. I don't really expect an errata, but I would like this considered in future publications that maybe not every single creature should have perception has a primary skill...


Fair enough... you may want to post this in the campaign forum attentions staff

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 Post subject: Re: Perception
PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:58 am 

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PCI_StatMonkey wrote:
toodeep wrote:
Something seems odd. I don't really expect an errata, but I would like this considered in future publications that maybe not every single creature should have perception has a primary skill...


Fair enough... you may want to post this in the campaign forum attentions staff

At least for animals, I would have to disagree. The ability to quickly and accurately observe one's surroundings means the difference between being alive or being lunch. It's just an instinctual thing. For things like demons, humanoids, ghosts and Pedro when checking for minor typos (Hey, it's in your signature Pete, I HAD to...by internet law) I would probably agree that Perception doesn't necessarily need to be a primary skill.


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 Post subject: Re: Perception
PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:52 am 

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Of course many herd or group animals shouldn't have perception as being in a herd they don't rely on the skill, just on one lucky members ability to explode their dice by law of averages and sufficiently large enough numbers for an average to be applied.


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 Post subject: Re: Perception
PostPosted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:49 pm 

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Many animals are not born perceptive like hawks, for example. Growing up in the "wild" makes them paranoid. In saying, it is not a primary skill but a skill that was obtained through training and experience.

And even as such, these animals don't have good perception still. A failed perception roll would result in a Mettle check in reaction to a pebble falling down a slope due to a "paranoia" flaw. It detected the sound, but it did not see the predator and assumes one is there.

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