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Author:  Eric Hughes [ Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  An Unballancing Pound of Flesh

If I have a successful unbalancing Attack against "MOB A", and follow that up with a spell attack, do I get to add my prowess die to the spells damage? Follow up question, if the spell attack is pound of flesh, do I get the Prowess Die on the Heal?

Author:  SamhainIA [ Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: An Unballancing Pound of Flesh

Here is my take on it, "no no no no!"

that being said here is my reasoning: Pound of flesh only heals from its self , and unbalancing attack while it adds damage its not part of pound of flesh its its own source of damage. (thus avoid the similar question of does brittle bones bump pound of flesh)

I'd also go so far to say that martial techniques like this wont add to spell damage.


Those being said, the book does not support or deny the position they do or they dont, so your mileage my vary.

Author:  Harliquinn [ Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: An Unballancing Pound of Flesh

I agree with Josh on those answers as well and would not allow that at my table. Now if you followed up unbalancing with something like Arcane Strike, I think that might warrant some
discussion.

Also, because I heard if something like this going on, The next attack for Unbalancing Attack should be your next attack within a reasonable amount of time. I wouldn't have to say it has to be your next action (if you want to bleed off recovery before making the follow up attack, e.g.) but if you make another attack in between it or change targets, the unbalancing effect should wear off. This was generally supported by Pedro on the old forums, though that is now lost.

John

Author:  MaurLysander [ Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: An Unballancing Pound of Flesh

The ruling has been sent down from on high that no outside damage can be added to pound of flesh damage. We sort of broke the spell with area effect elemental bolts. I ended up trading out of pound of flesh after the ruling came down. There seemed to me better healing options.

Author:  PCI_StatMonkey [ Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: An Unballancing Pound of Flesh

You ONLY heal the spell's damage... the additional damage from unbalancing strike is the result of the maneuver, not the spell.

but, regardless, it's still a nice combo...

Author:  Harliquinn [ Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: An Unballancing Pound of Flesh

Pedro
So you can follow up the Unbalancing Attack with a Spell and get the bonus? Just double checking.

John

Author:  Nierite [ Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: An Unballancing Pound of Flesh

That does seem to be what he is implying. It doesn't specify what KIND of attack, just that it is an attack.

Author:  mith [ Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: An Unballancing Pound of Flesh

MaurLysander wrote:
The ruling has been sent down from on high that no outside damage can be added to pound of flesh damage. We sort of broke the spell with area effect elemental bolts. I ended up trading out of pound of flesh after the ruling came down. There seemed to me better healing options.

Can you point to the ruling on that?

Author:  SamhainIA [ Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: An Unballancing Pound of Flesh

actually its this thread and common sense, I think you guys are pursuing clarification for the sake of clarification.

I'm satisfied with Pedros response in this thread.

I would encourage people to formulate specific questions if they would like ruling and not ask blanket questions and expect blanket rulings

Author:  mith [ Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: An Unballancing Pound of Flesh

SamhainIA wrote:
actually its this thread and common sense

Actually what Pedro said is "the spell damage", not "the spell's damage", there's a difference. In his post, Pedro was saying the martial technique's damage did not apply to the healing factor of 'A Pound of Flesh'. That isn't what I was asking for the clarification/ruling on.

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