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Author:  Eric Hughes [ Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Mancatcher Staff
OK. So I came up with a great combo for this under used weapon. Grab the mob with the staff. Then Heat Wave with the sustained adaptation to cook him on the spit. Combo is also handy for barbecuing your dinner when your out of wood. Heck. Why not make the mob your dinner? Umm.... Illiirites roasting on an open pit.... Yummy!

But I have one serious question. What is the DC for a mob attempting to break the grab? Codex of Hero's suggests it is the same as a grabble. But A:RPG sets the DC off of a passive Mi Unarmed. Seams to me that at minimum the skill should be based on Melee: Pole Arm. Also does starting a grab with the Mancatcher Staff give access to the Grabbling Maneuvers? Or is it only grab?
Author:  PCI_StatMonkey [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mancatcher Staff
Eric Hughes wrote:
OK. So I came up with a great combo for this under used weapon. Grab the mob with the staff. Then Heat Wave with the sustained adaptation to cook him on the spit. Combo is also handy for barbecuing your dinner when your out of wood. Heck. Why not make the mob your dinner? Umm.... Illiirites roasting on an open pit.... Yummy!

But I have one serious question. What is the DC for a mob attempting to break the grab? Codex of Hero's suggests it is the same as a grabble. But A:RPG sets the DC off of a passive Mi Unarmed. Seams to me that at minimum the skill should be based on Melee: Pole Arm. Also does starting a grab with the Mancatcher Staff give access to the Grabbling Maneuvers? Or is it only grab?



I would stick to the rules as is..

for now...

I will TRY and slip this in to the current errata pass
Author:  SamhainIA [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mancatcher Staff
so when using Grasping strike with the mancatcher staff, the TN to break the grab is still based from Passive MI Unarmed, instead of Passive Mi Polearms.

can someone pin with a Mancatcher staff, is the wielder considered to be in the grab or just the target and the staff?
Author:  Nierite [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 11:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mancatcher Staff
Physicswise, I'd say the Staff is grappling, not the person wielding it. After all, these things are like 10' long so it is hard to punish someone from that far away.
Author:  PCI_StatMonkey [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 1:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mancatcher Staff
Nierite wrote:
Physicswise, I'd say the Staff is grappling, not the person wielding it. After all, these things are like 10' long so it is hard to punish someone from that far away.


Correct
Author:  wilcoxon [ Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Mancatcher Staff
Definitely seems like it should be based on Melee (Pole Arms) rather than Melee (Unarmed).
Author:  Hard Eight [ Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Mancatcher Staff
Nierite wrote:
After all, these things are like 10' long so it is hard to punish someone from that far away.

Isn't being pinned and magically roasted alive punishment enough? :P
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