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 Post subject: Emphatic Link
PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:24 pm 
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When casting a second Emphatic Link(sp) does this void the first, since it states you may only have one active at a time?

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 Post subject: Re: Emphatic Link
PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:27 pm 
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Yes.

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 Post subject: Re: Emphatic Link
PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 4:54 pm 

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That "Yes" is not really automatic or clearly defined. E.L. Is NOT dismissable. It can just as easily be inferred that you may not cast it at all if you already have one up.

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 Post subject: Re: Emphatic Link
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 2:15 am 

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Actually, this question was on the old forums, and Pedro explicitly stated casting a new one cancels the old one.

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 Post subject: Re: Emphatic Link
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:03 am 

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Please provide a link to it, or point out the ruling in an errata doc. Otherwise, it is judge's call.

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 Post subject: Re: Emphatic Link
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:07 am 

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Better yet, just show me the ruling in an errata doc. Judges cannot be expected to know X rulings on all the threads on forums that they may never visit.

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 Post subject: Re: Emphatic Link
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:19 am 

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lol matt doesn't need a spell to cast "emphatic" link (he does doe empathic link however)

this is not a clear rule and because we cant link to the old forums, I guess we are out of luck with what they said unless Pedro comments on this.

So Empathic link we have one that says "not dismissible" and one that says "dismissed when cast again " and I would put in a third vote that my sense of the matter is that dismissible was probably left off on accident.

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 Post subject: Re: Emphatic Link
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:25 am 

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Matt,

I agree that the rules + errata document should be the definitive guide. To that end I think this is worth posting in the Ask the StatMonkey thread or in an errata thread. A GM shouldn't be 'held' to anything beyond those two.

Given Encali mentioned it was in the old forums, a link is obviously out of the question.

Until then, it's a judge's call. If a player has the spell they may want to confirm in advance how the GM is going to interpret it.

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 Post subject: Re: Emphatic Link
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 11:47 am 

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1) If you cast a spell a second time on a single target, is the first casting negated, or does the second casting? Example, Benediction of the Gods is up, a second casting on the same target is made to switch blessings or increase bonus.

2) If first spell is negated, how does this work with non-Dismissable spells? Example, Empathic Link. For intent reasons I would say you can't negate a first casting with a second if the spell is non-dismissable. Seems like a loop-hole at play to me.

3) If the second casting is a fail, what is the tick cost? Or is it a they can't even try/don't make the player waste ticks and strain?


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 Post subject: Re: Emphatic Link
PostPosted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 6:45 pm 

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Right, I can't provide reference. All I can offer is intent right now. It's obviously GM call until an official answer is given. I don't recall any talk of whether it was supposed to be able to be dismissed or not.

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