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Author:  SamhainIA [ Thu Dec 26, 2013 2:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Lets Talk about Sects

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The different sects include: The Mother Church of Coryan, the Milandric Church, the Church of the Dark Triumvirate, the worship of the Elemental Lords (such as that practiced by the Elorii and some human races in the Western Lands), any heretical cults that worship Infernals, the Khitani Church, Ssethric worshippers, the adherents of the Song of Pyrric, etc.


From Righteous Edict p 419 ARPG

If I recall correctly, there was some discussion about what this means for everybody.

A You don't have to be in a sect, but thats not a good thing. that means your not in a any ones sect for beneficial spells, and your affected by all of the spells that affect people not in the casters sect (blessed pledge and channeling comes to mind)

B Ghost scales start as "no sect" because Herka is a magic rock, not a deity

C I REALLY wanted to make this post to have a "Sect C" comment

Author:  Deviknyte [ Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Lets Talk about Sects

This is unfortunately a spot where the story out ways the role-playing. A is true, you don't have to be in a sect, but unless you are an atheist, you have a sect. Even if that sect is just your little village and the odd way you worship Yarris. I'd say the Yhing Hir have their own sect. They obvious worship spirits, but they still worship and believe in the gods.

B is wrong. The Ghost Scales belong to the Herka sect. The fact that they worship a magical rock has not barring on the fact that they are indeed in a religion in and of themselves. I don't think these spells are checking for divine protect, I think they are checking your faith verse your targets.

Author:  SamhainIA [ Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Lets Talk about Sects

I dont disagree with you Devin, but the Herkka sect isn't allowed to have any divine casters, so they may as well be "no sect" and I didn't say that very well in my first post

Author:  Deviknyte [ Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:02 pm ]
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SamhainIA wrote:
I dont disagree with you Devin, but the Herkka sect isn't allowed to have any divine casters, so they may as well be "no sect" and I didn't say that very well in my first post

May as well doesn't matter.

Author:  MaurLysander [ Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:58 pm ]
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Love the pun :P :lol:

Author:  MaurLysander [ Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Lets Talk about Sects

SamhainIA wrote:
I dont disagree with you Devin, but the Herkka sect isn't allowed to have any divine casters, so they may as well be "no sect" and I didn't say that very well in my first post


Love the pun in the title. To go with that pun I would have to add that without a sect those poor ghost scales are pretty hard up.

Author:  val Holryn [ Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Lets Talk about Sects

SamhainIA wrote:
I dont disagree with you Devin, but the Herkka sect isn't allowed to have any divine casters, so they may as well be "no sect" and I didn't say that very well in my first post


Okay, as I've said in other places the Ghost Scales are pretty screwy on a lot of levels.

Here is a Sect related question for you. Can a Ghost Scale take the Sword Sage path? On the surface the answer would seem to be yes since nowhere is it said that they can't ... and even though Herka is a (very special) rock there *IS* a religion built up around it.

On the other hand Sword Sage gives access to devote talents,which would include the talent smite infidel. Now you would be smiting everyone who isn't in your rock worshiping sect.

Author:  Nierite [ Thu Dec 26, 2013 8:59 pm ]
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Don't have the book handy, but don't they include Infernal Cults? If an Infernal Lord is a 'sect', so why can't the pretty, magical heat-producing rock be a sect? It isn't a god, so they aren't priests and can't have devout talents, but they could be powerful enough for Shamans to exist.

Author:  SamhainIA [ Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:57 pm ]
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@ eric, uhhhm maybe, tho i woudnt do it i could see it happening

an interesting corralary question, what religon are the Val'Sosi ssressen?

Author:  val Holryn [ Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Lets Talk about Sects

SamhainIA wrote:
...snip... an interesting corollary question, what religion are the Val'Sosi ssressen?


Unless they're really into living on the edge I would assume they worship the Fire Dragon like all the other black talons...that's the normal and safe choice...though nothing would stop a player from choosing to be a heretic or a Mourner.

Or do you mean the former val'Sosi PCs? I imagine any Milandesian ones joined the MOC. If not then they probably moved to Coryan...

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