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 Post subject: Val Bloodranks
PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:10 pm 
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Is there a mechanic used to detect relative Bloodranks between Vals? Is there an Insight Roll? Can you tell Bloodrank, or just relative Bloodrank (ie: higher than me, lower than me).

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 Post subject: Re: Val Bloodranks
PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:46 pm 

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No, should there be? Is there canon of vals being able to "scan" one another?


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 Post subject: Re: Val Bloodranks
PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:56 pm 
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Vals get bonus' against those who have a lower bloodrank.

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 Post subject: Re: Val Bloodranks
PostPosted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:47 pm 
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In the d20 days val could know each others blood rank just by spending a round and thinking about it. I don't think that transferred to the new system. I would assume a Val who has a background that grants a flintlock has a leg up on val who are vagabonds (or whatever). Val who are noble born or patricians probably have a leg up on a val who get a flintlock. Paths like knighthoods and legate probably help. If its close enough to be unclear call it a push.

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 Post subject: Re: Val Bloodranks
PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 1:55 pm 

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eric, why, the Talents specifically grant a bloodrank bump

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Bloodrank: If you are a val’Abebi, obtaining this Talent increases your racial Bloodrank by 1.


so there is a bloodrank, just no way to detect it

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 Post subject: Re: Val Bloodranks
PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 3:40 pm 
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Pedro hinted that blood rank and potent blood will eventually be important for at least some talents.

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 Post subject: Re: Val Bloodranks
PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 4:40 pm 

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it already matters for some talents, like the val abebi knowledege one

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 Post subject: Re: Val Bloodranks
PostPosted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:52 pm 
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SamhainIA wrote:
eric, why, the Talents specifically grant a bloodrank bump

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Bloodrank: If you are a val’Abebi, obtaining this Talent increases your racial Bloodrank by 1.


so there is a bloodrank, just no way to detect it



I am giving away a big secret here to those of you who have not figured out how Bad Ass the new Val'Delenov are but blood rank plays a major roll in their bloodline powers. For Hands of the Mother they get to cast Claws of the Beast with a Casting Bonus equal to twice their bloodrank.

So at Tier 1.8 I tap D8 speed 3 Claws. BR4*2=8+Passive Chr mod of 4 +12= 24 which equals the CTN of adapting Claws of the Beast twice. Every 2 Bloodline Talents I take I will get a die bump so you can bet I will be taking all but maybe 1.

I have always thought it was an instinctive that you know the BR of another Val and an unconscious deference to those of higher bloodrank. At the same time it would be easy to cognitively overcome the that unconscious deference in the case of the Noble Knight with a BR of 2 looking down on the Savage Barbarian shaman with the BR of 4 due to the difference in social status.

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 Post subject: Re: Val Bloodranks
PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:31 pm 
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MaurLysander wrote:
So at Tier 1.8 I tap D8 speed 3 Claws. BR4*2=8+Passive Chr mod of 4 +12= 24 which equals the CTN of adapting Claws of the Beast twice. Every 2 Bloodline Talents I take I will get a die bump so you can bet I will be taking all but maybe 1.

Certainly the val'Dellenov have one of the "better" (subjective, to be sure) sets of bloodline Talents. But unless I'm missing something, one cannot have a bloodrank of 4 at tier 1.8 since there are only 2 bloodline Talents available at each tier.

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 Post subject: Re: Val Bloodranks
PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:32 pm 
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Potent Blood.

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