mighty28 wrote:
I am really confused....what are you guys reading that states you cannot take arcanum talents or Learn Spell with Wilder? You just can't have (or take after) Arcane Spell Casting and Divine Spell Casting. You can take any other Arcanum Talents that you qualify for, including Learn Spell (which only requires the ability to cast spells)
Hi Matt. Kind of a corner case. By definition you can't be a wilder if you are arcane (or divine) so you don't start with access to take arcane talents at character creation. You need to get access.
A:RPG pg 70 wrote:
You may learn Arcanum Talents once you have acquired the Arcane Spell Casting Talent.
Spontaneously Awakened (like Rudimentary X) only grants access to ASC. Not the other arcane talents. So Wilder banning you from ASC, as I read it, effectively bans you from ANY arcane talents (like Learn Spell) unless you gain access another way. You are kinda screwed...
Perhaps Wilder should grant access. I certainly wouldn't argue against errata.
(as an aside-I missed that Wilder bans you from ever getting ASC in the bottom restriction. That invalidates the old work around I tried to use back when I was experimenting by taking ASC after Journeyman).