SamhainIA wrote:
well bring it up at the next go round on rules edits, as it stand the Rules as written mix things that are written that exact same way that should incur a free strike (in my opinion since we are expressing opinions)
What things with ranges like that do you think should incur free strikes?
In my opinion:
Spells:
- No: Rebuke, Shield of Enduring Will, Dolphin Chant (adapted from Melee), Grey Mists, Righteous Edict, Silent No Longer (adapted from Self), Whirlwind of Blades, Channeling, Ghostly Legion, Rattle the Bones, Serpent's Hiss, Shared Sacrifice
- Maybe: Flash (I would say no but it starts as cone which does provoke), Revelation, Ward of Protection, Blessed Rain, Fog Cloud, Ring of Fire, Sense Blood, Ward of Denial, With One Voice (I would say no but it starts as cone which does provoke), Zealot's Fervor
- Irrelevant: Ward of Privacy (1 min speed)
- Unclear adaptation range: Deeper Understanding, Manipulate the Senses, Whispers of Terror
The spells that I note as "unclear adaptation range" start with a range such as 30' (1 Target) but have an adaptation that has a range stated something like "all Targets within 10' Radius". I assume the original range applies and it is just changing the "target" portion (eg 30' (10' Radius)) but it is not explicit (unless I'm missing a general rule somewhere). If I'm correct on the range, then they clearly do provoke.
While searching for these, I noticed that Ward of Protection has an adaptation that needs errata. The spell starts as 10' Radius and the adaptation says it becomes 10' Radius. I'm assuming it should be "increase the radius by 10'".
Talents:
- No: With the Eyes of Illiir, LMT (Wicked Snap), Bloodline of Stone T3, The Crushing Waves, The Tempest
Since there is absolutely nothing I can find that I think should provoke (just some "maybe" spells) and there are lots of things that I strongly feel should not provoke, I would definitely like to see errata saying that all things given range of "X' Radius" are really "Self (X' Radius)" (or "0' (X' Radius)").