Exactly!
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| Author: | toodeep [ Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Shroud of Oblivion |
"Shroud of Oblivion Defense: Fortitude Effect: This spell can only be cast upon dead body or a Vanquished foe; if successful, the Target is reduced to nothing but dust, leaving any equipment untouched." Considering who gets this spell (deathbringers of Neroth) and that it has a defense, I assume that this can be used to destroy an active undead? Is that correct? If it is it seems like the text is oddly oblique to the fact. |
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| Author: | Southernskies [ Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shroud of Oblivion |
Gets a bit messy. An undead is just that, an 'undead body'. You would need to Vanquish the undead first (stamina or wounds) to give them their final rest. |
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| Author: | Nierite [ Tue Jul 07, 2015 6:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shroud of Oblivion |
An undead is not necessarily dead. I do agree that a clarification should be put on this. |
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| Author: | Eric Hughes [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shroud of Oblivion |
To quote a death bringer I know "Nothing to see here. Move along." |
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| Author: | Haakon_val'Ishi [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shroud of Oblivion |
Exactly!
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| Author: | lbxzero [ Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shroud of Oblivion |
The way I see it, the target basically can't fight back under its own means. The spell mentions nothing about undead specifically, so the "undead" trait means nothing with this spell. The undead must be vanquished or dead. It is a body disposal spell, probably to prevent reanimation. |
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| Author: | toodeep [ Sun Jul 26, 2015 7:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shroud of Oblivion |
lbxzero wrote: The way I see it, the target basically can't fight back under its own means. The spell mentions nothing about undead specifically, so the "undead" trait means nothing with this spell. The undead must be vanquished or dead. It is a body disposal spell, probably to prevent reanimation. But why give it a fortitude defense to resist then? An inanimate body wouldn't get that, only an animate but dead (i.e. undead) body would qualify for the spell, and yet get a fortitude defense, right? |
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| Author: | wilcoxon [ Sun Jul 26, 2015 9:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Shroud of Oblivion |
toodeep wrote: lbxzero wrote: The way I see it, the target basically can't fight back under its own means. The spell mentions nothing about undead specifically, so the "undead" trait means nothing with this spell. The undead must be vanquished or dead. It is a body disposal spell, probably to prevent reanimation. But why give it a fortitude defense to resist then? An inanimate body wouldn't get that, only an animate but dead (i.e. undead) body would qualify for the spell, and yet get a fortitude defense, right? My reading is that the Fortitude defense applies to any Vanquished foe (dead is dead so I don't think dead foes have a Fortitude defense). In order to kill a Vanquished foe with this spell, you need to beat their Fortitude. |
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