Actually, that was the year the Arcanis RPG book came out so technically they no longer bred true at that point
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| Author: | Hat [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Mixing Kio and val |
What are the resulting children from a lesser Kio (PC race) and val? I'm noodling some ideas and looking for something official. With a sweep of his hat, Paul |
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| Author: | Southernskies [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mixing Kio and val |
The same as Human/Val couples (unless Henry says otherwise, they're a human sub-race). With the added stigma of going WAY outside the social conventions. Quote: This is the reason why marrying outside one’s
val family has a stigma – it dilutes the gene pool with one less val child of that lineage being born. |
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| Author: | Nierite [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 7:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mixing Kio and val |
LAtalk May 30 2011 wrote: Actually the way it works is: Kio + Val = val'Sungha (regardless of family) Human + Kio (that would be Pure blood Kio, which as an aside is NOT a playable race) = Kio val'Sungha + Human = (either a val'Sungha or a normal Kio). What it doesn't do is specify Pure Kio or kio for the first one. |
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| Author: | Southernskies [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mixing Kio and val |
Keep in mind that (in 2011) this is when val was dominant under the previous campaign. Since val are no longer dominant, it could be either. |
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| Author: | Nierite [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mixing Kio and val |
Actually, that was the year the Arcanis RPG book came out so technically they no longer bred true at that point
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| Author: | Southernskies [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mixing Kio and val |
Quote: Published July 25th 2011 by Paradigm Concepts. Well, they did breed true for another 7 weeks after the original post... 
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| Author: | val Holryn [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mixing Kio and val |
Here is what I know and can share... ANY Val line that marries a Kio and produces a grey eyes baby has created a Val Sunga. Why this should be is unknown. Non Val children of such a union is a tougher question. It is my understanding that Kio do not universally breed true. This is part of why the Kio do not usually marry outside of Kio lines. Such a Kio "half breed" would probably NOT be in line to inherit a Kio sword/artifacts...and might be better created with human PC. The issue of breeding with Undir has a wrench thrown in it with the revelation that there are 2 different flavors of humanity (original occupants and "new" people who came with the PoM) that CAN'T interbreed. Maybe Kio can breed with both groups...but we know Kio interbreed with the PoM branch so it's also possible to they can't interbreed with the indigenous population. Undir predate the coming of the PoM...so if they are not thier own thing then they would be aligned with the original population. So there is a case that the Kio and the Undir can't interbreed. But honestly I think this is wrong. I think Kio and Undir can interbreed given thier shared regional history. So my best guess is that the two subspecies "of humanity" can act as a bridge. More will be made clear when we get the Kio book from the kickstarter. |
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| Author: | wilcoxon [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mixing Kio and val |
Per the Codex Arcanis section of the main rulebook: "The Kio were originally the result of the union between a True Kio and a human (Undir or otherwise)." It's not definitive (since we occasionally get incorrect information) but it seems to indicate that Kio can interbreed with any human. |
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| Author: | Nierite [ Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mixing Kio and val |
Go figure: the world of Arcanis is complicated
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| Author: | Hat [ Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Mixing Kio and val |
Most of what I recall hearing is that the rules for breeding relate to True Kio or Pure Kio rather than Kio. Perhaps they're identical. It's fine if they are, but the terminology shifts from 3.5 to A:RPG has left that somewhat confused. With a sweep of his hat, Paul |
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