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| Author: | Southernskies [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Eldar and Primal spells |
Quote: Special: Elder practitioners have access to a small number of spells available to Primal and Eldritch casters. Elder casters increase the Speed of such spells by +1 and reduce the Strain by -1 to reflect the different teachings of this Arcanum. How are these spells determined? I look through and can't find any spells that meet the requirement. |
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| Author: | Nierite [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 7:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eldar and Primal spells |
This refers to any spell in the Elemental, Control, and Creation tradition that doesn't have (Elder) beside it. Just from the ARPG at Tier 1 . . . Black Ice Call to Arms Entangling Webs Flash Storm of Knives Confound Halt Mind Link Earthen Shied Elemental Bolt Gail Force Winds Heat Wave Earthen Spikes |
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| Author: | Southernskies [ Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eldar and Primal spells |
Need to go and re-do my spell list, then... |
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| Author: | SamhainIA [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eldar and Primal spells |
I disagree, the only tradition that both Elder and Primal casters have access to is Elemental, so Elemental spells that dont have primal next to them are affected by that rule not all of their traditions. |
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| Author: | Nierite [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eldar and Primal spells |
You are half correct: The rule is for ELDRITCH and Primal, and Eldritch do have Creation. Control, however, you are correct and I dun goofed. So, the corrected list is (at Tier 1, only from the ARPG): Black Ice Call to Arms Entangling Webs Flash Storm of Knives Earthen Shield Elemental Bolt Gail Force Winds Heat Wave Earthen Spikes |
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| Author: | SamhainIA [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eldar and Primal spells |
it takes a team of us to get there some times but we got there
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| Author: | toodeep [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eldar and Primal spells |
but psions and elder both have control, so there is still the same issue with having to alter the speed/strain of non-elder specific spells of the control tradition, right? |
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| Author: | Nierite [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eldar and Primal spells |
Page 342 of the Core Book wrote: Special: Elder practitioners have access to a small number of spells available to Primal and Eldritch casters. Elder casters increase the Speed of such spells by +1 and reduce the Strain by -1 to reflect the different teachings of this Arcanum. Nope, their shared spells with Psionics are fine. |
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| Author: | wilcoxon [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eldar and Primal spells |
Nierite wrote: Page 342 of the Core Book wrote: Special: Elder practitioners have access to a small number of spells available to Primal and Eldritch casters. Elder casters increase the Speed of such spells by +1 and reduce the Strain by -1 to reflect the different teachings of this Arcanum. Nope, their shared spells with Psionics are fine. That does seem odd. Elder increase Speed and decrease Strain but Psionic do not - but the rule doesn't mention Psionic (just Primal and Eldritch). On the other hand, I'm not sure how many spells Elder shares with Psionic but not with Primal/Eldritch. |
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| Author: | toodeep [ Wed Jun 17, 2015 4:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Eldar and Primal spells |
wilcoxon wrote: Nierite wrote: Page 342 of the Core Book wrote: Special: Elder practitioners have access to a small number of spells available to Primal and Eldritch casters. Elder casters increase the Speed of such spells by +1 and reduce the Strain by -1 to reflect the different teachings of this Arcanum. Nope, their shared spells with Psionics are fine. That does seem odd. Elder increase Speed and decrease Strain but Psionic do not - but the rule doesn't mention Psionic (just Primal and Eldritch). On the other hand, I'm not sure how many spells Elder shares with Psionic but not with Primal/Eldritch. Transmutation and Control tradition are shared with Psionics. Elemental and Creation are shared with Eldritch. So it's an even split. I had always thought they had the penalty to the traditions that overlapped with psionics as well, but I guess not. |
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