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 Post subject: Fixing 'weak' weapon tricks
PostPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:19 pm 
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As has cropped up, some of the weapon tricks are very weak compared to others and have few (or no) use at the time you get them.

Bypass the Shield - a campaign writing problem. Its rare to encounter an Elite or Adversary threat using a shield.

Hamstring - literally hamstrung by the very short duration. Crippling Shot lasts for the whole scene and is ranged.

Throw the Blade - range is too short to be useful. A 5' shifts gets you to the target without disarming yourself.

The other tricks all have a lasting or significant effect on the target (or at least can be annoying to the target by forcing changed actions).

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 Post subject: Re: Fixing 'weak' weapon tricks
PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:43 am 

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For what it's worth, I promise to include shield-wielding elites in my next adventure.


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 Post subject: Re: Fixing 'weak' weapon tricks
PostPosted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:31 pm 
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Any love for Hamstring in the next errata document? I'd like to see it extended to 12 ticks or Scene for duration.

4 ticks of effect and then gone is still utterly worthless (Spd 3 weapon + 1 for trick); many foes don't even get an action in that time frame.

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 Post subject: Re: Fixing 'weak' weapon tricks
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 1:13 am 
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It's true that there is a wide range in utility from weapon trick to weapon trick. Hamstring & Throw the Blade are both at the low end of the scale and have utility that are at best "situational."

Pedro (and others) have said: That just the way it is. I don't expect PCI to adjust their balanced in the near future.

Edit: with that in mind I would factor tricks in to part of the weapon selection of your PCs. Sometimes you are a divine priest of Illiir and the choice essentially is made for you ... most of the time you have at least some scope to choose.

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