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 Post subject: Re: Creating a dual caster arcane divine ?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 12:54 pm 

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Amusingly enough, the "Many Paths to (one of) the Gods" section in the Codex, which contains advice on how to realize a given character concept(Storm Lord of Hurrian) through a variety of different builds, has one example where a player does the exact thing that SamhainIA mentions in his opening post.
Codex, p39 wrote:
Jimmy has elected to create an Arcane Archetype Hero; because everyone that knows Jimmy knows he is going to play a wizard. This is an unusual choice because a human character with the Arcane Spellcasting Talent has absolutely no option to become a full-fledged Divine Spellcaster as well. Heedless of these constraints, Jimmy creates an Eldritch Caster and, keeping to concept, selects anything that relates to electricity.
Jimmy begins as a proud son of a landed family and selects the Noble Born Background. Like Nelson, Jimmy cannot move directly into the Holy Champion Path, but he does not want to anyhow. Instead, he joins the church with his Tier I advancement by, selecting Initiate Iterant; this has the additional benefit of teaching him a single divine spell chosen from a small number of traditions.
During Tier II Jimmy becomes an Anointed Priest of Hurrian which leaves him free to join the Storm Lords during Tier III. He also intends to use the Learn Spell Talent to expand his Hero’s repertoire of Divine Spells.
Probably also needs a note in the errata that you can't actually do this then.


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 Post subject: Re: Creating a dual caster arcane divine ?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:01 pm 

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OH that's too grand I had forgotten about that!

Thanks Brian !

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 Post subject: Re: Creating a dual caster arcane divine ?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:47 pm 
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Yeah. . . I'd like a ruling on that statement. . . I know Henry has stated that the answer is "NO", but this seems like a major "But really yes" to me.

I'm going to keep telling people no until this is redacted or confirmed, but this seems a pretty clear statement of intention (which I also forgot about).

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 Post subject: Re: Creating a dual caster arcane divine ?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 3:35 pm 

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Cody,

The answer is a resounding No.

I have no idea what Pete was trying to accomplish when writing that example, but you CANNOT be an Arcane and Divine caster.

Period.

If need be I'll have Pete errata that example.

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 Post subject: Re: Creating a dual caster arcane divine ?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:06 pm 
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Sweetness! Thank you very, very much! It is what I expected, but it without an errata this can be used quite effectively by rules-lawyers, especially for those who aren't on the forums!

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 Post subject: Re: Creating a dual caster arcane divine ?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:14 am 

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PCIHenry wrote:
Paul,

Hat wrote:
I asked Pedro about it when we worked on the original rules because it didn't seem to fit and he was fine leaving it in.


If this is true, then Peter made an error.

It definitely isn't fine. The rules were designed to compliment the setting and the setting dictates that those who can cast Divine spells CANNOT cast Arcane and vice-versa.

I don't know how I can be clearer than that.


Henry,

Glad to hear it. Thanks for the clarification.

With a sweep of his...

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 Post subject: Re: Creating a dual caster arcane divine ?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:01 am 
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PCIHenry wrote:
I have no idea what Pete was trying to accomplish when writing that example, but you CANNOT be an Arcane and Divine caster.


I have to admit, I'm curious how the above reflects on the Sorcerer King's pursuit of Divine power.

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 Post subject: Re: Creating a dual caster arcane divine ?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 12:47 pm 
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Technically, he's not trying to get Divine power. He's trying to become a god in his own right, at least as far as we know. And there's already one god out there who messes things up (Sarish, god of everything!), so it's not out of the question (presumably). That said... we know the gods have messed around with timetravel before. What if the Sorcerer King is the pre-god version of Sarish?

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 Post subject: Re: Creating a dual caster arcane divine ?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 1:08 pm 

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acurrier wrote:
PCIHenry wrote:
I have no idea what Pete was trying to accomplish when writing that example, but you CANNOT be an Arcane and Divine caster.


I have to admit, I'm curious how the above reflects on the Sorcerer King's pursuit of Divine power.


Every time he gets close, Henry tells him no. He's been trying since approximately -1800 CY


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 Post subject: Re: Creating a dual caster arcane divine ?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:48 pm 

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Tony may have hit upon a very interesting point, I've always wondered why Sarish and the SK havent really duked it out in earnest

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