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 Post subject: Re: Ask the Stat Monkey!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:48 pm 

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Nierite wrote:
While I see no reason as to why the gauntlets couldn't be used as standard gauntlets, I can't say as I know what type of weapon they'd be. As it doesn't specify, I would assume they function as "Good" quality items, at least in terms of weapon damage and speed.


Personally in absence of an official ruling I would treat them as at least Fine quality. As a base speed 3 weapon, there's no difference between Fine and Exceptional in terms of combat. As a specially crafted item I would not expect that it's possible to add runes to them.

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 Post subject: Re: Ask the Stat Monkey!
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Hat wrote:
Personally in absence of an official ruling I would treat them as at least Fine quality. As a base speed 3 weapon, there's no difference between Fine and Exceptional in terms of combat. As a specially crafted item I would not expect that it's possible to add runes to them.
I had more or less assumed they would be Fine as well. Your comments re: runes is interesting. You may well be correct, but this would be a good point to have addressed officially. It would be a little odd to be able to put runes on a magic wand, staff, weapon or armour, but not on enchanted worn items that fall into those same categories.

This naturally leads into asking whether a player could put runes on any of the named weapons or armour (i.e. Cuirass of the Crusader) in the FiM, if one was obtained. Do these items have fewer rune slots as a result of their enchantments? Are the enchantments on these items entirely different than runes?

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 Post subject: Re: Ask the Stat Monkey!
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 2:43 pm 
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Just bumping the above questions

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 Post subject: Re: Ask the Stat Monkey!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:56 am 
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acurrier wrote:
Can the Gauntlet of Immaculate Defense (FiM, p. 20) be used as a weapon (A:RPG p. 242), and if yes, what equipment quality would it have? The same question would apply to the Gauntlets of Force (FiM p. 20) and Crotalus Gauntlet (FiM II, p. 27).

I took a look through both FiM books to see if there was anything on item creation which spells out the quality of item required to make a magic item, but didn't find anything (not surprising as it isn't an option for PCs). I see that the bulk of the magical arms and armour listed in the book are Exceptional or better, but it doesn't seem to be specified for Enchanted Garb.



Unless otherwise noted... magical items are of Fine quality...

yes you can use any gauntlet as a weapon

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 Post subject: Re: Ask the Stat Monkey!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:57 am 
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Thanks for the clarification Pedro. Per Hat's question, can runes be applied?

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 Post subject: Re: Ask the Stat Monkey!
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 11:04 am 

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Hello,

Unless an item specifically states that runes may be added to it, an item that already has a magical effect, like the Gauntlets of Force, may NOT have runes placed upon it.

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Makes sense, thanks for the clarification.

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I was going to add that putting a rune on an enchanted item destroys the original enchantment, but I thought that might just muddy the waters further.

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 Post subject: Re: Ask the Stat Monkey!
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For Spell runes (Forged in Magic, Vol. II, p.12), the description says that the spell is cast as if the bearer possessed a specified quality-based Passive value for Arcanum skill. Also, the spell uses "the bearer's Charisma as their primary casting attribute." Does the caster add his passive Charisma to the listed Arcanum passive value to get the net passive Arcanum value?

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Dante wrote:
For Spell runes (Forged in Magic, Vol. II, p.12), the description says that the spell is cast as if the bearer possessed a specified quality-based Passive value for Arcanum skill. Also, the spell uses "the bearer's Charisma as their primary casting attribute." Does the caster add his passive Charisma to the listed Arcanum passive value to get the net passive Arcanum value?

Maybe I should just wait and let the stat monkey speak, but I don't think so. The base (fine) version gives you a passive value of 18...equal to a base Tier 1 spell. The next bump is 21 which will cast most (all?) Tier 2 spells (or a tier 1 spell with an adaptation). Finally Legendary runes give a value of 23/24. Good for for a stocked Tier 3 spell. Adding passive charisma would advance everything by a tier (or more) and easily take the spell rune out of line with the comparable powers of other runes.

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