Nierite wrote:
Dante wrote:
In the Official FAQ Version 4.3, p.5, second question on the right column, the answer mentions gaining access to the Arcane Spell Casting or Divine Spell Casting talent via a Background, Path, or Archetype "without needing to meet the requirements." Does this answer mean that these Paths (e.g., Initiate Itinerant, Templar Itinerant), Backgrounds (e.g., Initiate of the Gods, Templar), etc. bypass the Spell Casting talents' listed prerequisites of Prestidigitation and skill ranks?
ASC and DSC are Limited Talents, which means that normal people cannot take them willy nilly. The paths and Background that you listed make DSC no longer limited to you. However, it does not grant you the talent, which means you still need to acquire the talent as per normal. The same is true with other Limited talents such as Saluwe's Embrace or Loyal Companion. While a val'Mehan can gain a Loyal companion infernal, it doesn't mean they can ignore the prereqs needed to 'upgrade' that infernal with the Loyal Companion talent.
Steve Wilcoxon's posted answer agrees with Cody's.
If you two are correct, I am concerned that some players may interpret the answer to the aforementioned question in the FAQ as indicating that all such Backgrounds, Paths, and Archetypes bypass the prerequisites. I see only Archetypes that explicitly bypass the prerequisites to grant directly the ASC or DSC talents. Perhaps the original answer meant that hypothetically such Backgrounds or Paths
could exist. Does anyone else see any such Backgrounds or Paths?
The wording of the answer in the FAQ says, "[...] you can gain access [...]", which is the same wording as the
Templar Itenerant Path: "[...] you instead gain access to [...]". I strongly suggest that the wording of the FAQ answer be changed to be more explicit that the prerequisites can be overridden only if the Background, Archetype, or Path directly grants the Talent.
The cost of adding spellcasting by means other than Archetype is high by requiring a Background or Path
plus the ASC/DSC prerequisites, including having to take the
Prestidigitation Talent, which has its own prerequisite. If a few players misunderstand that, their characters will be inappropriately (and illegitimately) more powerful than those of players who follow the rules.