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Author: | mighty28 [ Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:15 pm ] |
Post subject: | Official Errata-Helpless and Solidify Water |
the following will be added to the errata doc, but should be considered official as of 04/07/15: Under "Helpless" pg. 318, remove the following: "The attacker may, at his option, elect to withhold Wound damage inflicted by a melee attack against a Helpless creature to reduce its Stamina to 0." Under "Solidify Water" pg. 429, add the following red text: Adaptation: Increase the CTN by 6 to attempt to solidify the water within a living being. The spells type changes to Sustained with a Speed of 4(+6)/3, which attacks the Target’s Discipline. If successful, the Target is held Helpless. Any damage (including Wound damage) dealt to the Target automatically ends the spell. Once a Target is affected by this spell, he gains a cumulative +3 bonus to his Discipline for the remainder of the Scene against this spell. |
Author: | Harliquinn [ Tue Apr 07, 2015 1:34 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Official Errata-Helpless and Solidify Water |
So there is now no way to knock out a helpless opponent without killing them? |
Author: | mighty28 [ Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Official Errata-Helpless and Solidify Water |
Sure there is...Vanquish via Stamina. You just can't do it in 1 hit. |
Author: | Harliquinn [ Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:25 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Official Errata-Helpless and Solidify Water |
mighty28 wrote: Sure there is...Vanquish via Stamina. You just can't do it in 1 hit. Except it's more than likely the character is going to be Vanquished by Wounds first, since you can't avoid doing the Wound Damage with this change. |
Author: | Alessia Val'Mehan [ Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:47 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Official Errata-Helpless and Solidify Water |
If they are helpless and your still in combat and you don't want to risk them dying tie them up and gag them... If your out of combat i am sure a judge can arbitrate that you can knock them out without killing them. ~T |
Author: | toodeep [ Tue Apr 07, 2015 2:50 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Official Errata-Helpless and Solidify Water |
Alessia Val'Mehan wrote: If they are helpless and your still in combat and you don't want to risk them dying tie them up and gag them... If your out of combat i am sure a judge can arbitrate that you can knock them out without killing them. ~T I forsee very different GM attitudes about how easy it is to effectively tie up a statue. It's not like you can move their arms together and tie their wrists and ankles together. Another reason to invest in a set or two of manacles (maybe a large set too) |
Author: | SamhainIA [ Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:27 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Official Errata-Helpless and Solidify Water |
Thank you Matt (and everyone else). Can this post be stickied? |
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