Stances and Talents

Nierite · **Posted:** Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:58 pm

I think I know the answer to this, but I thought I'd check: Would a Stance Talent (ie: Forward Stance) stack with a talent such as Smite Infidel? They both provide static die bonus', but is a stance considered a talent or another 'source' of a bonus?

Southernskies · **Joined:** Wed Nov 06, 2013 7:06 am **Posts:** 991

Both talents; both bonus die.

So no, they shouldn't stack. Having said that, I don't have access to the draft errata from this computer, which has quite a few of theses sort of conflicts providing a die bump instead.

acurrier · **Posted:** Fri Jun 20, 2014 8:17 am

One is a once per scene bonus, and the other you are sacrificing a bonus to attack for a bonus to damage. If I were GMing I'd allow it, in my mind they are two different things, despite both being talent based.

SamhainIA · **Joined:** Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:36 am **Posts:** 1554

both are Talent sources that give die bumps, they do not stack

Nierite · **Posted:** Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:35 am

It was my assumption (and how I've been playing it myself) that they did NOT stack because they were talents. However, because one was listed as a Stance, I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything.

SamhainIA · **Joined:** Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:36 am **Posts:** 1554

There is a very good sidebar on Pg5 of the FAQ that very clearly defines how stacking works.

Quote:

All bonuses come from one of the following sources: Ally, Talent, Skill, Spell, Path, Item, Magic Item, Racial, Combat Maneuver and Untyped. There are three bonus types: Static (a fixed bonus such as a +1 or a +2), Die (such as adding a d6 or a d8) and Die Bump (increasing a die type to the next largest die.)"

both of the items in question fall into Talents (stances are not separated out) and both "add a die" so they don't stack.

Talen Drake · **Posted:** Fri Jun 20, 2014 10:34 am

Quote:

All bonuses come from one of the following sources: Ally, Talent, Skill, Spell, Path, Item, Magic Item, Racial, Combat Maneuver and Untyped. There are three bonus types: Static (a fixed bonus such as a +1 or a +2), Die (such as adding a d6 or a d8) and Die Bump (increasing a die type to the next largest die.)"

both of the items in question fall into Talents (stances are not separated out) and both "add a die" so they don't stack.[/quote]

So Forward Stance plus Arcane Strike stacks because one is a talent and the other is a maneuver? That seems pretty powerful.

Forward Stance, Sweeping Arcane Strike, massive damage rules, I am seeing a high probability of wounding 2-3 people at once.

Harliquinn · **Joined:** Fri Sep 27, 2013 10:40 am **Posts:** 2046

Forward Stance cannot be used with any fighting style and by extension with Arcane Strike. Fighting Styles (Arcane Strike is part of the Arcimous Primus Fighting style) are all stances you enter.

John

SamhainIA · **Joined:** Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:36 am **Posts:** 1554

yup its pretty easy to miss that the CoH fighting styles are stances, but thats keyed in from the talent you take to get the style

Talen Drake · **Posted:** Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:39 pm

Quote:

"[Limited] Martial techniques may only be learned through a Warrior advancement option, path, fighting style, or talents with the exception of Learn Martial Technique."

Ok would whoever wrote the lead in to New Martial Techniques on page 109 of the COH that I quoted above please explain what they meant here?

I think what was meant was this:
"[Limited] Martial techniques may only be learned through the Martial Archetype advancement option 'Gain the Learn Martial Technique Talent, twice', a path that grants Learn Martial Technique (the specific maneuver), taking the Learn Fighting Style talent, or other talents that grant the specific maneuver, this does not include the talent Learn Martial Technique except as previously noted."

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